Ive just read that a silicone TIP can increase the bhp on a vRS by 6 to 10bhp?

Ive never heard of something like this increasing the bhp before?

To my knowledge, it will give a small increase but the real advantage to fitting a TIP is that it will make the car feel more 'urgent'. I'll be going for an ABD one when i get round to doing it though, no silicone for me.

Edited 9 November, 201015 yr by JohnBoyMinster

That's nothing, you can get far more than that if you wear the right sun glasses.

What?

That's nothing, you can get far more than that if you wear the right sun glasses.

Ive just read that a silicone TIP can increase the bhp on a vRS by 6 to 10bhp?

Ive never heard of something like this increasing the bhp before?

It won't do anything. Other than maybe pop off, collapse or fit badly.

Save your money for a decent exhaust, where you will actually gain something.

I fitted an ABD tip to mine a while back after reading on here about claims that it made the turbo "spool up faster".

In reallity I'd say it made my engine loose about 20% of its torque in the low to mid rev range, and could not feel any gains or improvement at the top end of the rev range.

It now does a very important job, by placing it in my garage on a shelf, all shiney and new looking, where I see it every time I go to my car, it reminds me not to be so stupid and waste money on things that I ought to have known would not work.

HTH

Bill.

as above there is only so much air a little turbo can pull in vw spent alot of time money on stuff like this so theres work fine

the standard one is soft rubbe and collapses under boost, silicone one wont do this, ill be the first to say positive things about mine, standard one felt like a soggy turd. theres a youtube video of one on a tt colasping under boost, thus sucking much less air in

I fitted an ABD tip to mine a while back after reading on here about claims that it made the turbo "spool up faster".

In reallity I'd say it made my engine loose about 20% of its torque in the low to mid rev range, and could not feel any gains or improvement at the top end of the rev range.

It now does a very important job, by placing it in my garage on a shelf, all shiney and new looking, where I see it every time I go to my car, it reminds me not to be so stupid and waste money on things that I ought to have known would not work.

HTH

Bill.

how much you want for your shinney part ???

the standard one is soft rubbe and collapses under boost, silicone one wont do this, ill be the first to say positive things about mine, standard one felt like a soggy turd. theres a youtube video of one on a tt colasping under boost, thus sucking much less air in

Yeah but that's on one of the very early TT 1.8T's which has a totally different compressor intake system to us. It uses a full length rubber intake hose, our engines don't. We have a solid aluminium intake pipe, that was obviously a fix for this original collapsing hose. The hose you're talking about is just the short hose that goes from MAF to aluminium intake pipe. It has various inlets/oulets and reinforcement ribs, along with being connected to solid fittings at either end, so I don't think it would ever collapse, and I've never heard of it collapsing. If there is enough vacuum to collapse that hose, I would be more worried about sucking the air filter into the turbo!

I don't see how replacing a cast aluminium pipe that's bolted to the comp cover, with a silicone hose, is an improvement!

I think it was Clive that had Samco make him a bespoke hose to replace the MAF to intake pipe hose, so that it still mated up perfectly to the original cast pipe. That would be the only hose option that makes sense to me. But obviously purely as a replacement part, not as a performance increasing part.

At the end of the day it's your money and car, so who cares. It's not like fitting one will damage anything.

I'd just rather spend my cash on a proven performance mod, like an exhaust, intercooler or remap. Awesome charge over £120 for one of those intake hoses! How much beer could you buy for that?! :beer:

how much you want for your shinney part ???

Hi Clive

Sorry mate I could not sell it, the last time I took it off I threw it at the garage wall..... I know temper temper

After months of taking the ABD tip on and off my car and trying different things to get it to work at least as good as the OEM tip and failing, I came to the conclusion that the OEM tip is actually well designed and suited to a K03s turbo.

My thoughts were that the ABD tip with its larger internal pipe dia and smoothed out bend were in fact causing a reduction in the air speed of the air entering the turbo and the smooth bend was possibly causing turbulance on the inside radius of the bend.

The OEM tip by comparison, has the same size internal dia as the turbo compressor inlet and a serpentine bend to help reduce turbulance and maintain air speed.

Also the OEM tip is "rough cast" on its internal bore compared to the ABD tip which is very smooth...... the effects of this are often very hard for most people to understand because its natural to assume that the smooth pipe will flow more air and cause less turbulance....... unfortunately thats not the case, in reallity the OEM tip with its rough textured internal bore is in fact more likely to flow more and create less turbulant air flow, due to what is known in engineering terms as the "boundary layer" effect.

To sum up.......apart from the fact it shines like a sh#t house door, I was'nt impressed at all .

HTH

Bill.

Edited 10 November, 201015 yr by vrs180

I put a Forge TIP on a little while ago, and it made a massive difference! I wouldn't like to say there is any more power, but the power comes in quicker and harder than it ever did before. Well worth the £120 odd quid, bashed knuckles and cut fingers.

i have to disagree with it will not show bhp increase and yes i had samco make me up a tip pipe that mated with an abd oversized metal tip and it worked well

for example just look at seatcupra.net badger bill has just made a true 3 inch tip for the k04 hybrid boys and with this has seen a 15 to 20bhp increase

turbo will spool quicker with a non oem intake imo

wether its worth £150 that another story lol

p.s might be different with the smaller k03s turbo i dont know maybe a back to back test will show

Edited 10 November, 201015 yr by westallc

i have to disagree with it will not show bhp increase and yes i had samco make me up a tip pipe that mated with an abd oversized metal tip and it worked well

for example just look at seatcupra.net badger bill has just made a true 3 inch tip for the k04 hybrid boys and with this has seen a 15 to 20bhp increase

turbo will spool quicker with a non oem intake imo

wether its worth £150 that another story lol

p.s might be different with the smaller k03s turbo i dont know maybe a back to back test will show

The ABD tip may well have increased my engines peak bhp output ????? I dont know cos if it did, the increase was so small it could'nt be felt.

But the lack of torque between 2500 to 4000 rpm could be felt and IMO was bad enough to far out weigh and gians in peak bhp.

Bill.

does the abd pipe not have a restrictive elbow like the stock pipe (just an elbow that is polished)?

been looking at those badger pipes, wondering if there is a big difference to the forge pipe, as the forge tapers quite heavily, but still has less restriction that the stock tip.

abd has a 40% increase in flow as the bend has been opened up alot

side by side big difference

but as said above it may well be a small increase in peak but a drop in torque if this is the case i will stick to standard

i will however do back to back test next month with different tips to find out

as for bager bills tip it works and works very well prob due to the amout of air being moved due to the hybrid thus this was a restriction and that has now been removed and shows very good gains across the board in both bhp and torque