Hi Stan,

7Jx16 can be used with the 215/60 or 205/55

6Jx16 with the 205/55 only

Regards,

TP

Ta for that TP. Incidentally...what (easily understandable calculation) is it that determines the above?

Hi Agerbundsen,

as Graham points out it's the profile of the rim bead being a 'J' designation My link

Regards,

TP

Great link, Tim,

now i have filled in that litle square - on to the next one.

I put 205/55 r16 for winter in place of 225/50 r17.

Now at indicated 140 km/h the real speed (checked through gps) is -legally- 130 km/h.

Maybe this is a easy way to change the gear ratio...

In addition the car is 10 mm lower.

This change seems good to me. However I am led to believe that the warranty may be at risk with its insurance consequences also as this size tyre is not listed by Skoda for the winter! Your size means the odometer error is less than putting a listed alternative tyre size on the car. I thought the general consensus is that the narrower the tyre the better in snow/mud etc. As you will see from a previous post I have asked my supplier to amend the tyre size to the ,listed Skoda size of 215x60x16 and at present I await to hear from him. Has anyone else any thoughts on this?

If my supplier comes back to me and says there is a charge for cancelling one order and changing to the Skoda listed size I think I may still have to accept that charge to possibly avoid warranty claims.

This change seems good to me. However I am led to believe that the warranty may be at risk with its insurance consequences also as this size tyre is not listed by Skoda for the winter! Your size means the odometer error is less than putting a listed alternative tyre size on the car. I thought the general consensus is that the narrower the tyre the better in snow/mud etc. As you will see from a previous post I have asked my supplier to amend the tyre size to the ,listed Skoda size of 215x60x16 and at present I await to hear from him. Has anyone else any thoughts on this?

If my supplier comes back to me and says there is a charge for cancelling one order and changing to the Skoda listed size I think I may still have to accept that charge to possibly avoid warranty claims.

The certificate accompanying my car states that 205/55 r16 is allowable. Maybe every country has different rules about tire size.

The certificate accompanying my car states that 205/55 r16 is allowable. Maybe every country has different rules about tire size.

Wonderful - Sounds like Skoda needs some joined-up thinking!

However using your size of 205/55/16 woukld throw my odometer out by 3.81%. My beef was that my preferred size of 205/60/16 would only have meant a 0.76% error whereas the size that is acceptable to Skoda in the UK appears to be 215/60/16 which gives a 1.07% error.

Edited 25 November, 201015 yr by survey

Wonderful - Sounds like Skoda needs some joined-up thinking!

However using your size of 205/55/16 woukld throw my odometer out by 3.81%. My beef was that my preferred size of 205/60/16 would only have meant a 0.76% error whereas the size that is acceptable to Skoda in the UK appears to be 215/60/16 which gives a 1.07% error.

I agree: the ideal size would be 205/60/16 which is even more comfortable. It is a stupid thing it is not permitted!

I have just phoned my insurance company and they have no problem with changing the wheel/tyre size as it will be very close to the existing17" wheel diameter. I think their feeling is that it is safer to have winter tyres and putting steel wheels on in lieu of alloys, it reduces the cost of their liability in the event of an accident! I appreciate the possible Skoda warranty implication. However, have now found out that my tyres are on the way to the supplier and are the 205/60's so I am inclined to take them.

I have just phoned my insurance company and they have no problem with changing the wheel/tyre size as it will be very close to the existing17" wheel diameter. I think their feeling is that it is safer to have winter tyres and putting steel wheels on in lieu of alloys, it reduces the cost of their liability in the event of an accident! I appreciate the possible Skoda warranty implication. However, have now found out that my tyres are on the way to the supplier and are the 205/60's so I am inclined to take them.

Sounds like you're fortunate enough to have a sensible insurer....are you happy to name names? You've clearly gone out of your way to do the right thing, which is commendable. and given the forecast, you're timing is good too!

Edited 25 November, 201015 yr by oldstan

Sounds like you're fortunate enough to have a sensible insurer....are you happy to name names? You've clearly gone out of your way to do the right thing, which is commendable. and given the forecast, you're timing is good to!

The insurer is Hastings Direct. I think their only query would have been if I was upsizing the wheels. It is just the Skoda warranty that nags now.

The insurer is Hastings Direct. I think their only query would have been if I was upsizing the wheels. It is just the Skoda warranty that nags now.

My insurer also said much the same and also indicated a concern if "wider" wheels were fitted.

Do they catch you for a £25 admin fee every time you make a change like swapping winter tyres over?

I suggest you ring Skoda Cust. Serv. I did but got nowhere coz I couldn't give them a chassis number. You can. Furthermore, I spoke to Will Fisher about this a few days ago and he wasn't all that familiar with it....if someone else calls him personally, it might start sinking in that winter tyre/wheel sizes are a topic needing clarification at Skoda. He did, openly, invite further contact to clarify anything, so take him up on the offer....I think he's a decent bloke. I really tried hard but hit a brick wall - suggest you carry on where I left off. Do it NOW...

Edited 25 November, 201015 yr by oldstan

My insurer also said much the same and also indicated a concern if "wider" wheels were fitted.

Do they catch you for a £25 admin fee every time you make a change like swapping winter tyres over?

I suggest you ring Skoda Cust. Serv. I did but got nowhere coz I couldn't give them a chassis number. You can. Furthermore, I spoke to Will Fisher about this a few days ago and he wasn't all that familiar with it....if someone else calls him personally, it might start sinking in that winter tyre/wheel sizes are a topic needing clarification at Skoda. He did, openly, invite further contact to clarify anything, so take him up on the offer....I think he's a decent bloke. I really tried hard but hit a brick wall - suggest you carry on where I left off. Do it NOW...

No, my insurer did not mention an admin fee; they just noted the fact down.

Looking back through the thread I started, someone quoted the manual stating the only permissible tyre sizes for winter tyres. However on reading this I believe that the reference is to fitting snow chains and as far as I can see does not prohibit other tyre sizes. Or am I completely wrong here?

Edited 25 November, 201015 yr by survey

No, my insurer did not mention an admin fee; they just noted the fact down.

Looking back through the thread I started, someone quoted the manual stating the only permissible tyre sizes for winter tyres. However on reading this I believe that the reference is to fitting snow chains and as far as I can see does not prohibit other tyre sizes. Or am I completely wrong here?

Well that was what I was unsure about hence getting on to C/S. It was then they said they can't provide any information to me without a chassis no. Really think it's worth persevering with SUK C/S. Look what it did when everyone got on to them about...'the other topic"....

Give it a try. 08457 745 745 ask for Will Fisher.

Well that was what I was unsure about hence getting on to C/S. It was then they said they can't provide any information to me without a chassis no. Really think it's worth persevering with SUK C/S. Look what it did when everyone got on to them about...'the other topic"....

Give it a try. 08457 745 745 ask for Will Fisher.

I have now spoken to Will Fisher but he says he will have to check himself having got my chassis number. He hopes to come back by the end of the week, which may well be too late for me!

I have now spoken to Will Fisher but he says he will have to check himself having got my chassis number. He hopes to come back by the end of the week, which may well be too late for me!

I do not know the rules outside Italy, but here we have a official document accompanying the car (not the user manual) with some data about power, noise, mass and so on and listing the permissible tires (the man of the workshop where I went to order the tires wanted to see this document).

I have now spoken to Will Fisher but he says he will have to check himself having got my chassis number. He hopes to come back by the end of the week, which may well be too late for me!

Oh dear, I'm sorry about that. I'm sure anything he ultimately discovers will be of benefit, though. I'll keep an eye open for your news when he comes back to you.

I do not know the rules outside Italy, but here we have a official document accompanying the car (not the user manual) with some data about power, noise, mass and so on and listing the permissible tires (the man of the workshop where I went to order the tires wanted to see this document).

Our handbook refers to acceptable tyre sizes being given in a vehicle specific document that came with the car; we do not have anything like this! However, on the fuel filler cap there are 2 sizes of tyre mentioned for tyre pressure data - 225x50x17 (my standard tyre as delivered) and 215/60/16. The latter is not stated as being a winter fit and nowhere does it state that this is the only alternate size to be fitted and there would not be room on the filler cap to add any other size!

Edited 25 November, 201015 yr by survey

Our handbook refers to acceptable tyre sizes being given in a vehicle specific document that came with the car; we do not have anything like this!

I went from the shortish list that you can find on the inside of the fuel filler flap.

I'm using 215/60/16 Falken winter tyres from Mytyres.com, mounted on genuine VAG 16" alloys obtained very reasonably on Fleabay. Looks like the next few days will see whether the combination of these and 4x4 really work.

Our handbook refers to acceptable tyre sizes being given in a vehicle specific document that came with the car; we do not have anything like this! However, on the fuel filler cap there are 2 sizes of tyre mentioned for tyre pressure data - 225x50x17 (my standard tyre as delivered) and 215/60/16. The latter is not stated as being a winter fit and nowhere does it state that this is the only alternate size to be fitted and there would not be room on the filler cap to add any other size!

Yes, I too have only two sizes in the fuel flap, but in the document of the car the size 205/55/16 is listed indifferently for summer or winter use...

Yes, I too have only two sizes in the fuel flap, but in the document of the car the size 205/55/16 is listed indifferently for summer or winter use...

Remember I am trying to go for 205x60x16 not 205x50x16. As I say I await a call from Skoda. I have had a private correspondence with the very helpful TP and my last message to him was:

I have made a decision!! I shall wait until Skoda get back to me by tomorrow evening. I shall try to get them to agree the 205 size IS acceptable but if that fails or they do not get back to me by tomorrow evening, I shall cancel the order and reorder the 215size. If Skoda will not allow the 205, I would really like to know their reason but I suppose that would be expecting too much!

After contacting Skoda technical myself and via my dealer it now appears that my change from my 17' tyres to 16" 6 J steel wheels and 205x60x16 tyres are acceptable to Skoda! The handbook is very misleading as it only seems to refer tyres for snow chains.

Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread.

After contacting Skoda technical myself and via my dealer it now appears that my change from my 17' tyres to 16" 6 J steel wheels and 205x60x16 tyres are acceptable to Skoda! The handbook is very misleading as it only seems to refer tyres for snow chains.

Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread.

Two quick questions, survey. How did you manage to get to speak to technical?....and did you get anything in writing, or anything that can be quoted. Insurers can be picky and something concrete would be good for everyone , now and in the future for others coming to the subject cold.

Two quick questions, survey. How did you manage to get to speak to technical?....and did you get anything in writing, or anything that can be quoted. Insurers can be picky and something concrete would be good for everyone , now and in the future for others coming to the subject cold.

On this thread I was given Will Fisher's name. No, nothing in writing and quite frankly I doubt if Skoda are geared up for that! I really had to push to get the info. Personally I could see no problem as I am to use VAG wheels and I have selected a tyre size almost the diameter of my 17" wheels. Skoda will have to get their act together as winter tyres become more popular. As mentioned elsewhere my insurers are perfectly happy with the change saying it is a safety improvement.

Edited 29 November, 201015 yr by survey

To confuse matters, on the Octavia forum there is a scandanavian member with a new Scout fitted with new Xion winter alloys and 205/60r16 ice and snow tyres and they look the business. The approved sizes for the Scout are 205/55r16 and 225/50r17 - the latter being standard.

To confuse matters, on the Octavia forum there is a scandanavian member with a new Scout fitted with new Xion winter alloys and 205/60r16 ice and snow tyres and they look the business. The approved sizes for the Scout are 205/55r16 and 225/50r17 - the latter being standard.

Hopeless isn't it!

There does seem to be an enormous amount of confusion over the issue of changing wheel sizes and what tyre sizes are acceptable to Skoda. Part of this appears to be because Skoda do not readily know whether a particular combination is OK or not. The popularity of winter tyres is likely to be ongoing and hopefully Skoda will get up to speed.

Maybe TP would like to update his useful schedule in the light of my experince as mentioned a few postings ago. Will Fisher of Skoda and also my dealer's different contact with Skoda confirms that my proposed change from my standard 225x50x17" summer tyres to a 205x60x16 winter tyre on 6Jx16 steel wheels is indeed acceptable to Skoda!