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I have been offered Nokian WRG2 winter tyres 215x60xR16 but T rated. T rating is up to 118mph; is this OK for our Yeti?

As I understand it yes its OK.:thumbup:

This is TP territory but all you need to do is put a warning label on the dash or set a speed warning up for 118mph - not that 118 is legal on UK roads anyway.

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I have been offered Nokian WRG2 winter tyres 215x60xR16 but T rated. T rating is up to 118mph; is this OK for our Yeti?

Yes as long as there 94 load rated (edit) or above.

Just had a look at my steel wheels; 7Jx16 ET45 and the part number appears to be 3C0.601.027 M/N, which pretty much matches what's on the invoice 3C601027M03C

Regards,

TP

Edited by The Plumber

Yes as long as there 94 load rated (edit) or above.

Just had a look at my steel wheels; 7Jx16 ET45 and the part number appears to be 3C0.601.027 M/N, which pretty much matches what's on the invoice 3C601027M03C

Regards,

TP

Hi TP

The number on your invoice is correct - I had to supply it to a local Skoda dealer parts man today when ordering my winter wheels, 7J 16 inch ET45 5 stud 512 pcd 57 mm centre and "same as fitted on the Yeti E" wasn't enough!

And yes, he had contacted SUK and been given the wrong information for a 4 stud fixing wheel at £65. (Hope he wasn't offended when I suggested he looked at the Yeti on the forecourt before trying to convince me that I wanted 4 stud fixing!)

Regards

Fred....waiting for the "birth" announcement this week.

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3C0.601.027 M/N

The 11/09 is the month and year of manufacture.

Also has stamped further round the size 7Jx16 ET45

TP

3C0.601.027 M/N

The 11/09 is the month and year of manufacture.

Also has stamped further round the size 7Jx16 ET45

TP

Tim, you source of innumerous detail knowledge, I have a question:

What the Dickens is the significance of the "J" part of the wheel size? I've been wondering that for some time and not found any good explanation.

Inquiring minds want to know.........and we've got to keep you busy while you are waiting for Mark III

Edited by Agerbundsen

Tim, you source of innumerous detail knowledge, I have a question:

What the Dickens is the significance of the "J" part of the wheel size? I've been wondering that for some time and not found any good explanation.

Inquiring minds want to know.........and we've got to keep you busy while you are waiting for Mark III

Iirc 'J' refers to the wheel width in inches. So most winters are on either a 6" or 7" alloy for the Yeti.

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To summarise the winter tyres I have ordered for our SE 17" wheels.

I located some new VW Caddy 16" steel wheels fitted with 205x60x16 H rated and 99 load weighting Nokian WRG2 winter tyres. These should be with me by the end of next week. The odometer error on these is only 0.76%, so pretty close to accurate and just a tad better than the 215x60x16 size which is 1.07% out.

Although I understand that the Dunlop summer OE 17" tyres on our car are fair in bad weather and snow, I think that using winter tyres will give that extra margin of safety and hopefully ability in any snow we may experience. At the end of the day, the cost will only really be the steel wheels as when one set of tyres are on the car, the other set are not being used! And I guess the steel wheels will always have a value!

Thanks to everyone for their helpful comments.

Tim, you source of innumerous detail knowledge, I have a question:

What the Dickens is the significance of the "J" part of the wheel size? I've been wondering that for some time and not found any good explanation.

Inquiring minds want to know.........and we've got to keep you busy while you are waiting for Mark III

The J signifies the type of tyre retention lip moulded in the rim.

Hi Agerbundsen,

as Graham points out it's the profile of the rim bead being a 'J' designation My link

Regards,

TP

I located some new VW Caddy 16" steel wheels fitted with 205x60x16 H rated and 99 load weighting Nokian WRG2 winter tyres. These should be with me by the end of next week.

Hi Survey

When I was trying to get advice on winter tyre sizes from SUK I was referred to dealer, in this case James Rothwell at Allams, and his advice was "I would not recommend fitting 205/60 R16 on a Yeti". I didn't ask the reason.

Worth checking that your insurers are happy though.

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Hi Survey

When I was trying to get advice on winter tyre sizes from SUK I was referred to dealer, in this case James Rothwell at Allams, and his advice was "I would not recommend fitting 205/60 R16 on a Yeti". I didn't ask the reason.

Worth checking that your insurers are happy though.

I would be interested to know what the objection is. Anyone any ideas particularly as the error is so close to my 17" wheels. Maybe TP has a view as I have now ordered the tyres!

Edited by survey

Hi survey,

the only objection I can see is that there not a manufacture approved tyre size for the Yeti; albeit they fit and I belive used by jst_at_home from a previous Passat :wonder:

Therefore they possible could technically invalidate any warranty claims regard the drive system etc. Also there's good old insurance; funny lot at the best of times. Tried charging me yesterday for taking Pat of cover as I only have 3months left and they claimed their cancellation admin costs were greater than the outstanding 'balance' left on the policy :o

Regards,

TP

I would be interested to know what the objection is. Anyone any ideas particularly as the error is so close to my 17" wheels. Maybe TP has a view as I have now ordered the tyres!

My insurance company confirmed that mine would have to be the recommended size by Skoda - 205/55 profile if I was fitting 16" winters. Credit to them though, it was also a non chargeable change to the policy. :)

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Hi survey,

the only objection I can see is that there not a manufacture approved tyre size for the Yeti; albeit they fit and I belive used by jst_at_home from a previous Passat :wonder:

Therefore they possible could technically invalidate any warranty claims regard the drive system etc. Also there's good old insurance; funny lot at the best of times. Tried charging me yesterday for taking Pat of cover as I only have 3months left and they claimed their cancellation admin costs were greater than the outstanding 'balance' left on the policy :o

Regards,

TP

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TP - Now I'm really concerned. Not sure I can change my order so how serious, if at all, is this?

Hi again survey,

apologies if my post has proved concerning; not the intention :S I was just trying to answer the possible reasons behind James comments to Fred. In reality as I say they will fit and should cause no problems to your Yeti. However I would be possible careful as to what wheels your on for warranty work although saying that most would probably not notice.

Main thing to ensure however is that your insurer is happy as this alternative size 'might' fall under a modification.

Regards,

Tim.

TP - Now I'm really concerned. Not sure I can change my order so how serious, if at all, is this?

1/

you could invalidate your warranty by fitting a non-approved size tyre.

2/

you could end up with no insurance and all the consequences of that by fitting a non-approved size tyre.

This has been stated by 2 people already.

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There is mention in the on line manual , page 221, of winter tyres...........

https://mediaportal.skoda-auto.com/resource/documentation/manuals/en/Yeti/06-2010/Manual/A-SUV_Yeti_OwnersManual.pdf

It includes a reference to 7Jx16 ET45 215/16 as being an approved size, among of course, several other sizes.

Thanks for this. Just followed the link and read what it says. I have emailed my supplier to see if he can amend the order to 215x60x16's but will have to wait for a response. If I cannot amend, will have to take a chance. Personally I cannot really see a problem as the 205x60x16's are nearer to the diameter of my 17" standard fit tyres. However, I take your point.

Thanks for this. Just followed the link and read what it says. I have emailed my supplier to see if he can amend the order to 215x60x16's but will have to wait for a response. If I cannot amend, will have to take a chance. Personally I cannot really see a problem as the 205x60x16's are nearer to the diameter of my 17" standard fit tyres. However, I take your point.

Off the top of my head the measurement of this size is only about 1% different from standard 17" size. Have a look at one of the one line calculators, I think TP has a link pointing towards one but can't rememberwhere.

I'm not speaking from a point of experience or actual knowledge here - only speaking of what I remember reading here. (A little knowledge is dangerous :smirk: ) Maybe TP will pop back at some time and comment on this 215/60/16" size but I believe he has found them to be approved, as per the page I refer to but I'm fairly sure he used 205/55/R16" ....and he'll confirm it or otherwise but I believe he found this latter size to be more available, cheaper and also one of the approved sizes. I did look at the obvious suppliers, Mytyres, Tyremen, Camskill and one or two others and The Plumber's "55" size were just what I've outlined...cheaper and more available but do have a slightly greater differential circumference from the standard. Still not enough to be a problem, obviously ,otherwise they wouldn't be approved. (I recall this latter size were recommended for snow chains and I've guessed, maybe, that the slightly different circumference might be to allow for the extra size of the chains........but I'll stand corrected.

Thanks for this. Just followed the link and read what it says. I have emailed my supplier to see if he can amend the order to 215x60x16's but will have to wait for a response. If I cannot amend, will have to take a chance. Personally I cannot really see a problem as the 205x60x16's are nearer to the diameter of my 17" standard fit tyres. However, I take your point.

Hi Survey

I went down this road of 205/60 R16 until I got James's advice. Given how knowledgible he is, why not ask him what reasons he was given by Skoda? He's very helpful. [email protected]

Hope you can change your tyres without penalty if that's what it comes to.

Fred

Here again :giggle:

yes the 215/60 R16 is the standard factory fit 16" tyre used on both the Yeti 'E' and 'S' and obviously there's no reason not to run these in a winter pattern.

Run the 205/55 R16 myself for the reasons given by Stan plus they are a designated winter tyre size for the Monster along with 205/50 R17 on 6Jx17 rims (Flash alloys; flash price too :o). Again as quite rightly pointed out by Stan ther a sligtly smaller diameter to allowy for chains :D

Regards,

TP

I put 205/55 r16 for winter in place of 225/50 r17.

Now at indicated 140 km/h the real speed (checked through gps) is -legally- 130 km/h.

Maybe this is a easy way to change the gear ratio...

In addition the car is 10 mm lower.

Here again :giggle:

yes the 215/60 R16 is the standard factory fit 16" tyre used on both the Yeti 'E' and 'S' and obviously there's no reason not to run these in a winter pattern.

Run the 205/55 R16 myself for the reasons given by Stan plus they are a designated winter tyre size for the Monster along with 205/50 R17 on 6Jx17 rims (Flash alloys; flash price too :o). Again as quite rightly pointed out by Stan ther a sligtly smaller diameter to allowy for chains :D

Regards,

TP

Thanks TP. Hope you didn't think I was speaking on your behalf just there. I just happened to have taken notice of what you said and it stuck somewhere in the depths of the old grey stuff.....trouble is I often remember wrong, hence my slightly guarded provisos littering the post. :)

PS. My Skoda dealer has quoted two steel wheels. One is6Jx16 H2 ET50 5/112 £61 inc.vat. The other. 7Jx16H2 ET45 5/112 £45.79 inc vat.

Haven't yet worked out which would be required with the previously mentioned 215 60 16. Any thoughts on that?

Edited by oldstan

Thanks TP. Hope you didn't think I was speaking on your behalf just there. I just happened to have taken notice of what you said and it stuck somewhere in the depths of the old grey stuff.....trouble is I often remember wrong, hence my slightly guarded provisos littering the post. :)

PS. My Skoda dealer has quoted two steel wheels. One is6Jx16 H2 ET50 5/112 £61 inc.vat. The other. 7Jx16H2 ET45 5/112 £45.79 inc vat.

Haven't yet worked out which would be required with the previously mentioned 215 60 16. Any thoughts on that?

Hi Stan,

7Jx16 can be used with the 215/60 or 205/55

6Jx16 with the 205/55 only

Regards,

TP

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