Hello all, just acquired a '04 Octy Tdi.

First things first, the stock HU has gone in exchange for a Pioneer DEH-6200 BT, Installed and quite happy with it, USB access is blindingly fast.

However I'm a little dissapointed in my speaker install, I spent part of the weekend changing the front speakers, the drivers side had "blown" and was sounding off.

A lot of fiddling, but with info from Briskoda I acheived it, I did need to hit the inside of the door panel with a hammer to make it accomodate the larger speaker magnets.

I've fitted JBL GT5-652's. To be honest I'm not blown away, and now I'm wondering if the shallow housing has any effect on sound quality.

I'm not expecting miracles, but the bass is definately not tight and is struggling. At the moment I think the mounting maybe limiting speaker performance.

Reviews of these speakers were's too bad, they are two way, not components, so now I'm doubling up on the tweeters.

> Am I expecting too much?

> What's the best component speakers to fit in the front door panels? Is the bass ever any good?

> Is it worth considering aftermarket housings - are they any?

I wast thinking of upgrading the rears, but now wonder if its worth it.....?

I also have some fancy ideas about putting speaks in the rear side panels in the boot (where CD changer is currently mounted) has anyone done this?

Eventually I'd like to fit a sub, but not at the sacrifice of boot space, so I'm looking at next to the spare wheel - again, anyone done this? I'm trying to work out what kind of sub I'd need, 1000W maybe a bit overkill if I'm only running 4x50W from the HU. I don't need to be bouncing round da neighbourhood with my homies, just enhancing my bass experience.

Cheers

-r0msey

Edited 22 December, 201015 yr by r0msey

1000w you're probably quoting must be peak?

Personally, I'd go for a well spec'd 10", it'll offer tight punchy bass which would compliment the rest of your setup rather than a larger woofer that'll just offer lots of rolling bass.

You can then use a high pass filter and perhaps take out anything under 125hz from your door speakers. This'll stop them distorting so easily and let your sub fill in the extra.

Thanks

Kevin

Edited 23 November, 201015 yr by Jabbasport

Did you put any sound deading in the front door?? If not that's why the bass is not good

1000w you're probably quoting must be peak?

Yes sorry, peak on the sub, RMS on the rest... thanks for the advice.

Did you put any sound deading in the front door?? If not that's why the bass is not good

Nope, and consequently I've read up a bit here and there, I guess that's my next stop.

How much and where exactly? There's a kind of grey flimsy foam skin there at the moment - remove this and replace?

Old peice of carpet do the job, or any other recommendations?

TIA

-r0.

........any other recommendations?.........

Sound deadening the doors is massively important if you are looking to maximise the performance of your front speakers. TalkAudio has a dedicated thread which will help you: http://www.talkaudio...ng-fabrication/

Personally, I use Skinz and I recommend it. Others favour Dynamat.

Don't forget the waterproof membrane.

Carpet? No thanks. Ever smelt wet carpet - not pleasant.

As for your other comments, I would forget about changing the rear speakers and add to the budget for fitting new components in the front.

As far as a sub goes, the suggestion of a 10" by Jabbasport is a good one and it won't take up too much space.

Don't even think of running it off a head unit and buy a 4 channel amp which will drive the front components and the sub.

Use the h/u to power the standard rear speakers which are only for fill-in and a sop to rear-seated passengers.

Speakers in the boot? Only if you are in the habit of attending pic-nics or parking up in lay-bys.

They will destroy any soundstage in the front of the car if they aren't overwhelmed by the sub first!

Edited 24 November, 201015 yr by BOBAD

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Edited 24 November, 201015 yr by BOBAD

Sound deadening the doors is massively important if you are looking to maximise the performance of your front speakers. TalkAudio has a dedicated thread which will help you: http://www.talkaudio...ng-fabrication/

Personally, I use Skinz and I recommend it. Others favour Dynamat.

Don't forget the waterproof membrane.

Thanks for that, I will be looking into it in detail, since I'm really not happy with what's coming out of them right now.

Carpet? No thanks. Ever smelt wet carpet - not pleasant.

Mmm, good point.

As for your other comments, I would forget about changing the rear speakers and add to the budget for fitting new components in the front.

Ok.

As far as a sub goes, the suggestion of a 10" by Jabbasport is a good one and it won't take up too much space.

I figure a nice MDF box can be made to fit next to the spare wheel and occupy a bit of space in the 'false floor'.

Don't even think of running it off a head unit and buy a 4 channel amp which will drive the front components and the sub.

Sounds like a good plan, I've been eyeying up a sony Sony XM-4S, which might not pack enough punch? Recommendations?

Use the h/u to power the standard rear speakers which are only for fill-in and a sop to rear-seated passengers.

Fair enough.

Speakers in the boot? Only if you are in the habit of attending pic-nics or parking up in lay-bys.

Nope, but I do have a habit of driving around with the rear seats down, and more recently taken out as I tend to use the car more as a van.

They will destroy any soundstage in the front of the car if they aren't overwhelmed by the sub first!

Fair enough. I think I'll work on fixing what's in the front before breaking something else.

Many thanks for the info.

-r0

I figure a nice MDF box can be made to fit next to the spare wheel ...

Yes, just be sure to get the dimensions of the box correct for the speaker that you will be using.

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.... I've been eyeing up a Sony XM-4S, which might not pack enough punch? Recommendations?

I'm not a fan of Sony amps and you can do much better than that.

I can't recommend one until I know your budget.

You won't achieve good sound quality from your system while only using a head unit for amplification though.

Here is a link to a selection of 4 channel amps from a highly-recommended supplier.

I would start with Hertz HE4 personally, but most would be an improvement over just using a head unit!

http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/amplifiers/multi-channel-amps.html?cadid=b8b9d16ff39ac8d8df0a939e7c1dab43

... I do have a habit of driving around with the rear seats down....

You are correct to concentrate on the front speakers. Any in the rear (sub excepted) will simply drag the soundstage rearwards.

Not sure if yours is an estate or not, but the way you say false floor i am assuming it is!

If so check out my install, its a bit tidier now its finished! very impressed and the sound out of my system is very powerfull with good treble and bass.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/171509-tdi-estate-boot-install/