hello i,ll be be honest from the start. i had plenty money to buy any car. bought a alfa 159, what a pile of ****e considered a octy vrs, coudn,nt come to terms with image issues.lurked here 3 years, boss has superb posh job leather seats says its best car he has driven so i have bought a octy 1.9 elegance.anybody who buys a car for a badge is a muppet. i have grown out of sporty tackle so the octy suits me. the salesman was a top bloke as well suprisingly. I look forward to gleaning expert info from experts on the forum.

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