I wrote to Skoda over a year ago wanting a scout diesel DSG and was told no. (this was before the Yeti was launched)

Now you can buy one.

This is a comparison of the CR140DSG versions of both the SM & Scout.

I was wondering what the differences were, and whether I had made the right choice for me.

Both based on Golf/Octavia floorpan, both 180mm ground clearance

both seem to have same front suspension.

Yeti has different rear suspension (better?) setup and wider rear track.

SM has smaller by 0.5m turning circle.

SM shorter, taller, wider.

SM has higher driving position.

Both have same size fuel tanks.

SM available with off road button (big plus)

SM shorter overhangs

SM cleverer inside - varioflex seating rear.

Scout had much bigger boot.

Scout faster: 122 vs 116mph

Don't know difference in 0-62 times as scout no published in configuration.

Scout 162p/Km vx SM 169g/Km

fuel consumption:

urban scout 38.2 vs 37.2mpg

extra urban scout 51.4 vs 48.7mph

combined scout 45.6 vs 43.5mpg.

So, Scout is faster & more economical.....

But it is not cheap, I think the SM might be cheaper for similar spec. I added all the extras I could to match it to my elegance spec with all the extras I have ordered and it came out at around £28k without off road button.

So to answer my own question, I have chosen the right model for me.

Mike

You sure have. We just did the same calculations vs the Scout (to get one in addition to the Yeti) and since there is no Elegance spec level you have to add everything as options. So they are mega pricey.

Also neither of us liked the white silver across most of the dashboard. The Yeti interior is far, FAR classier than the Octavia's in my book.

I'd have thought the only reason to go for the Scout instead is if you need a bigger boot. The Yeti boot is rather small.

I'd have thought the only reason to go for the Scout instead is if you need a bigger boot. The Yeti boot is rather small.

On that one I do have to agree. Vertically the Yeti has more but then you can't see out the back window. The Scout has a HUGE boot - but then that is also as a result of its HUGE rear overhangs!

As has been alluded to the main difference is surely size. If you need to move wardrobes then get a Scout, if you want more manoeuvrability and a more compact car then go for the Yeti. The Yeti is fantastic for driving around country lanes, car parks etc. due to its size and tight turning circle.

Does the Scout have the diesel CR engine yet? When I went for the Yeti one of the reasons was that the Scout still had the old PD engine and I specifically wanted the newer technology engine.

As has been alluded to the main difference is surely size. If you need to move wardrobes then get a Scout, if you want more manoeuvrability and a more compact car then go for the Yeti. The Yeti is fantastic for driving around country lanes, car parks etc. due to its size and tight turning circle.

Does the Scout have the diesel CR engine yet? When I went for the Yeti one of the reasons was that the Scout still had the old PD engine and I specifically wanted the newer technology engine.

Yes it is available mow Both the CR engine and the DSG gearbox. I think all the Octavia's are now available with the CR engines.

Mike

Edited 6 December, 201015 yr by rockhopper

I wrote to Skoda over a year ago wanting a scout diesel DSG and was told no. (this was before the Yeti was launched)

Now you can buy one.

This is a comparison of the CR140DSG versions of both the SM & Scout.

I was wondering what the differences were, and whether I had made the right choice for me.

Both based on Golf/Octavia floorpan, both 180mm ground clearance

both seem to have same front suspension.

Yeti has different rear suspension (better?) setup and wider rear track.

SM has smaller by 0.5m turning circle.

SM shorter, taller, wider.

SM has higher driving position.

Both have same size fuel tanks.

SM available with off road button (big plus)

SM shorter overhangs

SM cleverer inside - varioflex seating rear.

Scout had much bigger boot.

Scout faster: 122 vs 116mph

Don't know difference in 0-62 times as scout no published in configuration.

Scout 162p/Km vx SM 169g/Km

fuel consumption:

urban scout 38.2 vs 37.2mpg

extra urban scout 51.4 vs 48.7mph

combined scout 45.6 vs 43.5mpg.

So, Scout is faster & more economical.....

But it is not cheap, I think the SM might be cheaper for similar spec. I added all the extras I could to match it to my elegance spec with all the extras I have ordered and it came out at around £28k without off road button.

So to answer my own question, I have chosen the right model for me.

Mike

Mike, thats an interesting summary.

I looked at the Scout and compared it to the Yeti before buying my SM.

Bear in mind I had a VRS Mk 2 estate for a couple of years before the Yeti but overall I found the quality of the Yeti to be superior - that's internal and external build and the actual quality of internal materials. The rear seating flexibility was a main draw and has been used to very good effect so far in my hands. The Panoramic opening glass roof was also another big plus for me and I get the advantages of this on a daily basis.

However, one thing that is slightly annoying is the boot space with the spare wheel installed. Coming from the Octy estate, its a big difference and for each holiday so far we've filled it to the gunnels!

In terms of value - iirc the Scout was by far the cheaper option - discounts were far greater on the Octy compared to the newish Yeti and there were a number of additional offers such as 0% and free servicing on the Scout.

I dont regret buying the Yeti for one moment bte - its a more complete car than the VRS Octy imo.

The 2 seem comparable in many ways, but, I would ask the question, what are you going to use the 4x4 system for?

The Yeti will cope with rougher off-road work due to it's lesser overhangs and greater "ramp-over" angle.

The 2 seem comparable in many ways, but, I would ask the question, what are you going to use the 4x4 system for?

The Yeti will cope with rougher off-road work due to it's lesser overhangs and greater "ramp-over" angle.

Am I alone in thinking the nose of the Yeti is far too low for real off road work though?

I can't see why they didn't make it a bit higher as the back is far better.

And as said above, you need to take into account the VAT free deal on the scout.

And as said above, you need to take into account the VAT free deal on the scout.

True, with the VAT deal James gave us over £5000 off. So a fully loaded Scout with 2,0 TDI and DSG would be just over £22,000.

Am I alone in thinking the nose of the Yeti is far too low for real off road work though?

I can't see why they didn't make it a bit higher as the back is far better.

Hasn't caused me a problem, and the attack angle is good for the type of vehicle.

I seem to remember a thread where someone wanted to lower the suspension to improve road handling. Now it is considered too low!!!

People want to chip the engine to make it faster. Change the Bolero 'cos the CDs take too long to play. Put winter tyres on. Take winter tyres off. Have fixed tow brackets or detachable ones. Change the seats/mirror position/carpets/boot liner/interior lights/spare wheel ETC ETC.

Please tell me - Why did they buy a Yeti in the first place?

Forgive me if I've got this wrong, but I thought that people came here because they did want to fit winter tyres in the winter, then take them off in the summer or make minor mods to their car or find out which tow bar is best for them or fit a brighter boot light coz the existing one was just a bit dim and could be improved on or fit a spare wheel coz they didn't want to rely on a tin of spray splodge when they punctured irrepairably. In short, I thought it was because people enjoyed chatting about the finer points of their Yeti and discussing all the things you're now telling us we shouldn't. I'm tempted to ask, what are YOU doing on here in the first place........but that might seem inappropriate.......so I won't. Smiley inserted here for good measure.

Edited 6 December, 201015 yr by oldstan

Please tell me - Why did they buy a Yeti in the first place?

Terfyn: 95% of what a Yeti is, is of course perfect. Hence all of us having bought one or considering buying one. But like with anything in the world nothing is perfect. So by making it faster, giving it a brighter boot light or by moaning about the super slow CD we are merely voicing our own opinions (look up in a dictionary what "forum" means) and/or trying to make our cars a bit more unique and personal. No one has ever said on here that they are doing these things because they think the car was the wrong car for them or that the car is terrible just because the boot light is useless. The days of Ford Model Ts in "any colour as long as it is black" is thankfully long over. But even so people still want to personalise their chariots and talk about them on a forum like this. And as such we value your opinion too.

Forgive me if I've got this wrong, but I thought that people came here because they did want to fit winter tyres in the winter, then take them off in the summer or make minor mods to their car or find out which tow bar is best for them or fit a brighter boot light coz the existing one was just a bit dim and could be improved on or fit a spare wheel coz they didn't want to rely on a tin of spray splodge when they punctured irrepairably. In short, I thought it was because people enjoyed chatting about the finer points of their Yeti and discussing all the things you're now telling us we shouldn't. I'm tempted to ask, what are YOU doing on here in the first place........but that might seem inappropriate.......so I won't.

No dont. You haven't even got your Yeti. Mine is twelve months, two days old. I am here to discuss Yeti's and their finer points. But I read so many posts where the owners or potential owners seem to be unhappy with their choice and want to air their complaints.

Anyway if as you claim the forum is to air any point of view - stop moaning about my comments - they are just as valid as yours.

But even so people still want to personalise their chariots and talk about them on a forum like this. And as such we value your opinion too

Thank you. Likewise

As you assumed - my comment was a little "tongue in cheek"

Edited 6 December, 201015 yr by Terfyn

2 that get me:

Chipping. If you wanted to have a more powerful car why didn't you buy one. Why "chip" a 1.2, with the potential of breaking something (see clutch thread) when you could have bought a 1.4 or bigger anyway?

Brakes. Can only find one mention, but why do people seem to think they need to fit bigger front discs? Surely this will upset the braking balance and doesn't the manufacturer fit brakes that already exceed the capacity of the vehicle? I've never found the standard brakes on anything I have owned to be wanting!

Winter/summer tyres I can see the point of, and even changing wheels, but some things do make me wonder.

Now I can claim to have been through two winters with Betty and on the so called Summer Tyres - reason, I cannot justify the cost of a second set of tyres and wheels on my budget.

Having said that, I cannot fault the Yeti's performance in this weather. I have driven for **ty years without winter tyres as an option and am aware of the problems and, of course, how to deal with the situation. I would love to have winter tyres but, like 95% of other drivers, have managed without. The Yeti is as sure footed as any other car I have driven and better than most.

Am I alone in thinking the nose of the Yeti is far too low for real off road work though?

Doh!!!! Oooooh!! Grrr!!!

I read this as saying that the "NOISE" of the Yeti was too low for off road work, and was thinking that, yes, it is very quiet, but why make it noisier? How would that make it better?

Doh!!!! Oooooh!! Grrr!!!

I read this as saying that the "NOISE" of the Yeti was too low for off road work, and was thinking that, yes, it is very quiet, but why make it noisier? How would that make it better?

You should have gone to Specsavers.

"Nurse, he's out of bed again!"

The 2 seem comparable in many ways, but, I would ask the question, what are you going to use the 4x4 system for?

The Yeti will cope with rougher off-road work due to it's lesser overhangs and greater "ramp-over" angle.

I personally wanted the higher driving position, 4x4 for when the Surrey Hills around me are snow bound & icy. I also prefer the sure footedness of 4x4 on wet & damp roads. When I ordered my SM it was the only Skoda available in diesel/DSG/4x4 so I went with it. I am 100% sure that I will be happy with my choice based on my 3 shortish test drives and all the positive comments on this forum, as well as my recent previous experience of driving a Octavia DSG for 2 years and 40,000 miles.

My only reservation now it that I have changed my role work wise and whereas I was doing about 25-30,000 miles driven all over the south east previously when I ordered the SM, my mileage has dropped to around 8-10,000 miles, driven around London. But that is not taking any social away days/holidays etc as I do not like driving a manual car for medical reasons (or the Polo for that matter). I only bought the Polo as a very short term vehicle whilst I was waiting for my SM and for my eldest daughter to learn to drive. It will be sold as soon as she passes her test. I won't insure it for her and she can't afford it either!

When I had a RR years ago I did use it off road for fun, and I would want to do the same with the SM as well.

Ramblings over,

Mike

Mike

I thought about a Scout, but decided it was too big for what I needed, and since I do get off-road a fair bit was just not suitable. The angles are all wrong with it. Not been too serious with the Yeti yet, but from what I have done it is probably nearly as capable as my Freelander. It's a shame no-one makes a good AllTerrain tyre in Yeti sizes!

I led a Yeti Adventure earlier in the year when we did the Claerwen Byway in the Elan Valley. Very easy in the Yeti but a good introduction for those that hadn't been before. Search for Yeti Adventure Wales.

Mike

I thought about a Scout, but decided it was too big for what I needed, and since I do get off-road a fair bit was just not suitable. The angles are all wrong with it. Not been too serious with the Yeti yet, but from what I have done it is probably nearly as capable as my Freelander. It's a shame no-one makes a good AllTerrain tyre in Yeti sizes!

I led a Yeti Adventure earlier in the year when we did the Claerwen Byway in the Elan Valley. Very easy in the Yeti but a good introduction for those that hadn't been before. Search for Yeti Adventure Wales.

He led a Yeti Adventure in Wales. He did. I was there. It was just brilliant, and the photos are somewhere to prove it ALL, but right now I cannot be, er, bothered to seek them out! Go seek! Theyre there. And there is NO-One like Graham to lead such an adventure. Promise.

Thanks guys, I'll have a look tomorrow when I'm back at the iMac. the iPhone won't let me search :-(

Mike

Me thinks there will be another one next year!!

Me thinks there will be another one next year!!

Sounds like fun. I look forward to it.

Mike