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Fitting High Beam Zenons

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My Superb only has the low beam zenons, has anyone fitted high beam zenons, either genuine Skoda or aftermarket? It's either that I bolt a set of Cibie Super Oscars to the front, too many deer and kangaroos where I live. They are great lights on a freeway/motorway but in the sticks they lack a bit and I am getting old so my vision sees less light these days. My son (40 years younger) says they are great and he is right - for him, me I just need more light. Thanks in advance.

Chris

Are you sure you don't already have them?

In the UK (at least) they are fitted with true Bi-xenon's which means the dip beam and main (high) beam use the same bulb with a 'shutter' system, the halogen bulbs your car is also fitted with are purely for 'flashing' your headlights (they do come on with the high beam but should be drowned out by the xenon's).

One problem with replacing high beam halogens is the xenon's life is drastically reduced if they are turned on and off again frequently - they also take a few seconds to get up to normal operating temperature, but even then they should be no better than your OE Bi-xenon's on high beam.

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Are you sure you don't already have them?

In the UK (at least) they are fitted with true Bi-xenon's which means the dip beam and main (high) beam use the same bulb with a 'shutter' system, the halogen bulbs your car is also fitted with are purely for 'flashing' your headlights (they do come on with the high beam but should be drowned out by the xenon's).

One problem with replacing high beam halogens is the xenon's life is drastically reduced if they are turned on and off again frequently - they also take a few seconds to get up to normal operating temperature, but even then they should be no better than your OE Bi-xenon's on high beam.

They just don't look white enough on high beam to me, but if the high beam is being diluted with halogen then that could be the reason I thought they weren't and If they are bi-xenon (mid 09 build BTW) I am disappointed with their performance. I am sure they are great for a younger person but for someone getting on in years I find them lacking after reading the rave reviews. I can't blame the car it is my problem so will have to look at building a light bar. The bloody wildlife around here is dangerous, we have already lost one car to a deer and I sure do not want that to happen again and worse than that some poor defenceless animal suffers. How do I confirm it has Bi-xenons?? Thanks for the reply BTW, it is good to be in a group who has the answers already, the good book supplied with the car is not the best thing I have ever read. This car has to be the best thing I have driven in recent times and the greatest bargain in cars known to man.

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Superb has adaptive lightning, predefined sets of light position and beam depending of conditions and speed. Not sure how you can turn this off, but it might help trying this. I know most of cars with this tends to lower light during rain, low speed etc.

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Superb has adaptive lightning, predefined sets of light position and beam depending of conditions and speed. Not sure how you can turn this off, but it might help trying this. I know most of cars with this tends to lower light during rain, low speed etc.

I understand all that. If a Superb has low beam xenons does that mean it MUST have high beam xenons as well?

I understand all that. If a Superb has low beam xenons does that mean it MUST have high beam xenons as well?

That's my understanding

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It is amazing the stuff manufacturers don't tell us. I just had a close look at how the lights work and the lights themselves. I presumed it did not have bi-xenons because looking at the lights a halogen globe can be seen, the globe for headlight flashing and yes it does work as a high beam. So, the halogen light is utilised for high beam plus the shutters which is a bit of a revelation move and allow the xenons to light up the road as a high beam as well. So it is I presume the Halogen that is used for the long range light, am I correct? I am going to see if I can get some Halogen globes that are a bit stronger. The danger with that is that modern lights use plastic bodies and lenses can get damaged by stronger globes. Another thing that caused me to think they were not bi-xenons was I expected to see the characteristic flash that flash that xenons give on light up.

I changed the halogen highbeams bulbs to a much whiter light, and they blend with the Xenons better now

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I changed the halogen highbeams bulbs to a much whiter light, and they blend with the Xenons better now

I have just found some Hella 100 watt globes specifically designed to go into plastic headlights. Tomorrow I will order some and see how they go.

So it is I presume the Halogen that is used for the long range light, am I correct?

Yes and no, the main reason for having the halogens is for the 'flash' mode.

Xenons take a few miliseconds more to warm up, so flashing xenons on and off sometimes isn't as effective as with traditional halogens.

The shutters on the xenons open up completely so main beam is still xenon, just backed up by the halogens.

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This is causing me a pain as well, Frankly im dissapointed with the Xenon lighting in the superb, My budget would only stretch to an ambition model so i forked out an additional €1200 for the Xenon lights with AFS, My brother has a 2010 Audi A3 with the Xenion headlights (another Vag Car, Sureley the same lights), he has no halogen bulb for flashing, when he flashes his lights from an off position he gets a nice white xenon flash, I dont really care about bulb life, But right now the high beam effect of my xenons is mostly yellow and a bit lack lustre. Also, why are the DRL's not LED at this stage?

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This is causing me a pain as well, Frankly im dissapointed with the Xenon lighting in the superb, My budget would only stretch to an ambition model so i forked out an additional €1200 for the Xenon lights with AFS, My brother has a 2010 Audi A3 with the Xenion headlights (another Vag Car, Sureley the same lights), he has no halogen bulb for flashing, when he flashes his lights from an off position he gets a nice white xenon flash, I dont really care about bulb life, But right now the high beam effect of my xenons is mostly yellow and a bit lack lustre. Also, why are the DRL's not LED at this stage?

This is not meant to be prying but could you give me an indication of your age? I am in my early sixties and as you might know as you get older the light receptors in your eyes lose their effectiveness. Are the lights better on the Audi to your eyes?

This is not meant to be prying but could you give me an indication of your age? I am in my early sixties and as you might know as you get older the light receptors in your eyes lose their effectiveness. Are the lights better on the Audi to your eyes?

Im 33 and have perfect vision! (and dont worry your not prying at all!)

And the Audi A3 Xenons are far brighter and clearer at night while driving, we took both cars down a country road at night to test

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Im 33 and have perfect vision! (and dont worry your not prying at all!)

And the Audi A3 Xenons are far brighter and clearer at night while driving, we took both cars down a country road at night to test

I actually gave thought to putting HID's in where the halogens are now. It might be an interesting experiment. I have been very busy and had a period of illness and have not yet bought the 100 watt halogens, I must do it tomorrow.

I actually gave thought to putting HID's in where the halogens are now. It might be an interesting experiment. I have been very busy and had a period of illness and have not yet bought the 100 watt halogens, I must do it tomorrow.

Id be very curious to know how it turns out, Is there a danger of getting canbus errors?

My brother has a 2010 Audi A3 with the Xenion headlights (another Vag Car, Sureley the same lights), he has no halogen bulb for flashing, when he flashes his lights from an off position he gets a nice white xenon flash, I dont really care about bulb life, But right now the high beam effect of my xenons is mostly yellow and a bit lack lustre. Also, why are the DRL's not LED at this stage?

I know this won't help you anything, but I am very happy to have separate halogen bulbs for flashing. Xenons just don't light on fast enough for flashing. And I do care about xenon bulbs life very much, even so, that after few days I've started switching lights from 0 to AUTO only when I need them (or I'm sure I will need them before first switching lights off) and I don't use Coming/Leaving Home functions any more. I would love to have the latter two but with other bulbs not with xenons. Unfortunately it seems that is not possible.

On the other hand I do agree with you about LED DRLs.

Aleš

I actually gave thought to putting HID's in where the halogens are now. It might be an interesting experiment. I have been very busy and had a period of illness and have not yet bought the 100 watt halogens, I must do it tomorrow.

Hi!

Of course you might add a couple of broad beams and two pencil beams of these: http://www.auteroche.com/index.php/en/alpha-225-xenon

Then the deer and kangaroos have to get sunglasses and your neighbors get warned: It's just not sunrise yet, only you coming home... B)

/Superbjoser

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Id be very curious to know how it turns out, Is there a danger of getting canbus errors?

I haven't got a clue as it was only a passing thought. They have a far lower current draw than halogens so what that might do to the canbus would have to be a guess. My gut feeling is nothing as long as both lights are the same but I am no electronic wizard as I thought a can bus brought beer :rofl:

As for the HID driving lights, there any number out there but when it comes to lights I like Cibie. They have been around for a long time and they work, end of story. Hella do some as well but they are not quite as good IMO.

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