The good thing about having huge figures is when your turbo starts making siren noises the traffic moves out the way

Edited 31 July, 201114 yr by janner_Sy

The good thing about having huge figures is when your turbo starts making siren noises the traffic moves out the way

PMSL!

Bonus! Is that switchable via SPS too.....?!

In all seriousness gents all I want to illustrate is that other companies are available beyond the 'favoured' companies often plugged on here...

If you hear a 'siren' best move out the way it could be one of a growing number of Revo'd TSI VRS's!

Bonus! Is that switchable via SPS too.....?!

In all seriousness gents all I want to illustrate is that other companies are available beyond the 'favoured' companies often plugged on here...

If you hear a 'siren' best move out the way it could be one of a growing number of Revo'd TSI VRS's!

So what's your experience of any of those 'favoured' companies on here?

Edited 1 August, 201114 yr by Guest

Jonno, tbh not that favourable...all I can say is that Revo is significantlt better 99% of the time

Jonno, tbh not that favourable...all I can say is that Revo is significantlt better 99% of the time

Would be interested to hear more? Did you try one of those 'favoured' maps back to back with revo then on same car?

If you want a remap to give good figures but is not kind to your car go for Revo. If you want a remap which is kind to your car and still gives figures as good or not far off Revo maybe look elsewhere

Tbh you will be fine with most of the well know brands at stage 1, it's when you start pushing your engine to stage 2+ that the cracks start to show. I have to admit to being very impressed with the results of mine :yes:

Remember the light the burns twice as bright dies twice as quick

The light that burns twice as bright burns for half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly

The gist of it was there , im not very bright though, but im reliable

Edited 1 August, 201114 yr by janner_Sy

On the flipside my car has nearly 50k since the ko4 upgrade and runs great with no issues nor has any lights ever come up.

Would be interested to hear more? Did you try one of those 'favoured' maps back to back with revo then on same car?

TBH Jonno I had two remaps from previous supplier, first one uploaded via handheld device had the infamous full throttle 'hesitation', revised map uploaded by me had much less power and less noticable hesitation, i.e. the boost was likely turned down. I felt like my car was being used as a test bed - I don't see how a remap can be properly tested and released to customers unless first tested on a dyno / roadtest hence me losing confidence and moving my custom to Revo again.

I must stress that I have had around 10 cars remapped by various companies (large and small) and have never experienced any previous issues.

Whilst Revo may fully optimise all parameters and 'max out' engine outputs in some folks opinion, I am confident they fully develop and test their software prior to release. I remain highly impressed by Revo and would confidently recommend their software to anyone.

But your missing the point. Revo refuse to accept its the map causing the issue on his car, so are offering little help other than telling him the/ usual revo sketch of 'its not the map, its the car. But with unitronic he has none of the issues he does with therevo map so it can't be the car.

What about carl, his car with stage 2+ revo wouldn't make good figures at all. He spent a few changing parts on his car to no avail on the reccomendation of revo, but when he reverted back to stage 2 his car made more power, then without removing his car from the rollers they put the stage 2+ map back and alas...less power. Guess what.....revo srptill denied it even though they're dealer who is widely renowned in the tfsi scene agreed it wasn't the car at fault, they still denied the map was at fault.

DomT on his ed30 and a fair few others on the other forums I use, had revo light their dash up with ECL. Again revo map allegedly not at fault, yet bluefin shark, pdt and APR work without engine management lights.

Ibizaracebrake off SCN had his entire engine blow, his tuner believed the injectors were strugling to flow the amount of fuel asked of them hence melted pistons. Again its not their fault. Loads of 1.4tsi issues revo blame fuel, conditions etc for some issues, and hardware for others. This is a dificult one as there re some inherent issues, but again guys with other remaps like apr, shark, p-torque aren't having these big issues and tbh if we did, we'd get a little support from our tuners.

As said in the other thread and nmany before, revo are nearly alwys the top performers. But at what expense, maybe their map is just better, ir maybe/ tthey out things to far jus to get the best figures because wwe all kknow figures sell remaps thts why they normally exagerate their claims. Revo would be a top product if they went so arrogant about their map being perfect imo.

There's a joke across most forums I use. When someone says their revo car is broke, everyone replies 'boost leak as that's revos default answer to everything.

If you want a map with the best R&D in the market, then go APR imo. If you want a great map and customer service try the likes of shark, p-torque and jabbasport. Of you want the best figures but no customer service help buy revo.

The only cars over in Greece that we've seen have issues and then be okay with other software are those that have had factory update hardware and software between having Revo and going elsewhere. Our dealer TSB states to not touch a 1.4tsi that is showing any of the problematic symptoms. And there are three performance modes built into the software to allow running in different conditions.

There's a difference between peak power and power under the curve. A lot of time was spent going through data on Carl's VRS, but unfortunately we've never had the car in our workshop. We do know that the stage2+ software on a 100% healthy car does make more power than stage2, which is specifically tuned to work within the limitations of the stock high pressure fuel pump.

The only issues with CEL's on ED30's is something we've seen recently, all of those cars affected were rectified within a couple of weeks and all of those owners are running trouble free and have been looked after for their troubles.

As you say the 1.4TSI issues are difficult, there are known issues with these engines. We have a very recent warranty form forwarded to us from a main dealer for a completely standard delivery mileage 1.4tsi that needed piston rings replacing... had that not been caught that would have been yet another stock car needing a short engine.

Revo software gives the ability to be the top performer, with the built in adjustability it also allows dealers and users to set the car up in a very mild state of tune.

Revo state a seen power/torque gain, and give the seen stock figures not an exaggeration. A lot of flywheel dynos give 'high' readings in performance mode, they also do in stock. Giving both figures lets everybody see the performance gain. We'd love to quote power at the wheels but there are too many people that don't understand those figures. Peak figures are larger irrelevant it's all about the power/torque under the curve. We tune for drivability rather than numbers.

Revo software is only great software if its setup well on an 100% healthy car, due to the nature of our software and dealer network there are a lot of users out there so you tend to hear a lot more about Revo experiences than other software. The adjustability gives a lot of flexibility to cater for different needs.

The 'it’s a boost leak' is a joke, but that all comes down to the old issues with diaphragm type DV's on 1.8t's that used to fail left right and centre. When you deal with the same engine type, you see the same failings. Checking the DV for a boost leak is and was a very easy thing to do that didn't cost any money, therefore on the old 1.8T engines it's always the first thing to look it in regards to a loss of power.

Revo software is sold through a dealer network, that being the case customer service from Revo tends to be through a third party. Customer service is the top priority, but it's not always easy to keep everyone happy when most of the time someone else is dealing with the end user.

There is a lot of choice on the market, and 90% of the time anything that's chosen is going to drive better than a standard car. As you can see people will side with the company they've spent money with. There's some good software out there, but there's also some really bad stuff... luckily the companies that tend to resell un-branded software that has minimal development don't last very long. Speak to some of the big name shops out there; Awesome, JKM, AMD, etc, etc. there's a reason they're all using Revo.

Some really good points Paul and every tuner will at some stage have issues with a particular map on a particular car and it's how they deal with it that's important as people are spending a lot of money on their product and potentially a lot more on their car if it goes wrong.

I went with Revo through Awesome because I know I would get the support of Awesome if I had any issues and I know Jim Cotton would only work with a reputable tuner that would provide him the support to enable him to provide quality service to his customers.