Hi, does anyone know if there are plans for a DSG 2.0 CR TDi 4 X 4 Superb? (the V6 is too juicy for me).

Hi, does anyone know if there are plans for a DSG 2.0 CR TDi 4 X 4 Superb? (the V6 is too juicy for me).

Erm Yeah, it's already in production, but only in 140 not 170.

Al.

Erm Yeah, it's already in production, but only in 140 not 170.

Al.

Thanks for answer, should have said im my post that I am aware of the 140, I'm interested in the new Superb 170bhp.

Thanks for answer, should have said im my post that I am aware of the 140, I'm interested in the new Superb 170bhp.

Doubt you'll ever see the 170 with DSG and 4x4 - Too close competition for Audi All-Road... same with a VRS version; too close to RS4 and RS6

Al.

ps. The Manual 170 4x4 is excellent - the box and engine are very well paired...

You could always order a 140PS DSG 4x4 and then see a nice chap at Shark Performance and have it 'adjusted' to produce more power?

I'd happily do you a deal on a Superb DSG TDi 4x4 if you don't mind waiting for it!

Doubt you'll ever see the 170 with DSG and 4x4 - Too close competition for Audi All-Road... same with a VRS version; too close to RS4 and RS6

Al.

ps. The Manual 170 4x4 is excellent - the box and engine are very well paired...

Thanks for all suggestions and answers, unfortunately I have to have auto box (and, dare I say it,I tow a caravan) hence 4 X 4 requirement.

Thanks for all suggestions and answers, unfortunately I have to have auto box (and, dare I say it,I tow a caravan) hence 4 X 4 requirement.

We've never towed with our's as our olds had a Kia Sportage to tow our Caravan with (before this, i ran a Sorento and towed with this) - we have now changed to a MotorHome, and boy, it's SOOOOO easy!

Al.

A caravan doesn't need a 4x4... (remember Clarkson)

Still, regarding 140PS issue - You can always remap it to 170PS... no biggie...

You could always order a 140PS DSG 4x4 and then see a nice chap at Shark Performance and have it 'adjusted' to produce more power?

I'd happily do you a deal on a Superb DSG TDi 4x4 if you don't mind waiting for it!

I must confess I am very keen on this option but a number of things concern me. First is the impact on warranty if you "adjust" the engine, the second is that people in the know now tell me that the ECU is now harder to "adjust" (and therefore more obvious it has been done) due to anti-tampering software/Casing and finally the negative attitude of insurers over modifications, that if you don't declare, your car is in all respects uninsured.

Very interested to hear other's views.

Edited 1 September, 201114 yr by ddyer79

I must confess I am very keen on this option but a number of things concern me. First is the impact on warranty if you "adjust" the engine, the second is that people in the know now tell me that the ECU is now harder to "adjust" (and therefore more obvious it has been done) due to anti-tampering software/Casing and finally the negative attitude of insurers over modifications, that if you don't declare, your car is in all respects uninsured.

Very interested to hear other's views.

Thanks again for all input. However let me lay out my reason for DSG Superb 4X4. 1. Lower Road Tax (£165.00).Present car Volvo V70 2.4 Petrol; £265.00. 2. Higher MPG compared with similar vehicles. Present car Volvo V70 2.4 Petrol (Auto) 30.9 solo, 24 towing. No other 4x4 vehicle that I have researched can come anywhere near the Superbs figures. If anyone out there can find a comparable vehicle I will gladly check it out. Thanks again.

I must confess I am very keen on this option but a number of things concern me. First is the impact on warranty if you "adjust" the engine, the second is that people in the know now tell me that the ECU is now harder to "adjust" (and therefore more obvious it has been done) due to anti-tampering software/Casing and finally the negative attitude of insurers over modifications, that if you don't declare, your car is in all respects uninsured.

Very interested to hear other's views.

Yes I understand the ECUs are harder to remap now but it would seem that the professional tuners are able to work around this, I've driven various cars that have been remapped without any issue. As far as affecting longevity of the engine obviously it is impossible to say but the Police Skodas are usually remapped and they do lots of miles often at high speed or in high wear conditions. It is illegal not to declare a remap on your insurance, ask around I know of some guys on the Yeti forum who have their Yetis remapped and the insurance didn't go up too much, 10% I believe?

Yes I understand the ECUs are harder to remap now but it would seem that the professional tuners are able to work around this, I've driven various cars that have been remapped without any issue. As far as affecting longevity of the engine obviously it is impossible to say but the Police Skodas are usually remapped and they do lots of miles often at high speed or in high wear conditions. It is illegal not to declare a remap on your insurance, ask around I know of some guys on the Yeti forum who have their Yetis remapped and the insurance didn't go up too much, 10% I believe?

Many thanks James, appreciate your comments as I have a 170 4x4 Combi on order, but love the DSG box on my current Superb 170 CR Hatch and feel I would really miss it, but also concerned that I'd miss the extra grunt of the 170 CR if I went for the 140 with DSG (and 4WD).

You state that the engine should take it, but what about Skoda's attitude to worn/broken components during warranty period on an "adjusted" motor?

The only part of your car that will no longer have a warranty would be the ECU, Turbo and Engine.

Your gearbox, chassis, suspension, interior etc will still be covered.

I have mapped my last 3 skoda cars and my previous vRS was in a very high and quite obvious state of tune. Yet i still had work carried out under warranty.

Mapping as long as it is done by a reputable tuner is very safe. I mapped my last vRS at 5k miles and that was still going strong when i sold it at 67k miles. It also got driven at very high speed for the first 10 months of it's life as i was living in the Fatherland and made full use of the power on the Autobahn's

I must confess I am very keen on this option but a number of things concern me. First is the impact on warranty if you "adjust" the engine, the second is that people in the know now tell me that the ECU is now harder to "adjust" (and therefore more obvious it has been done) due to anti-tampering software/Casing and finally the negative attitude of insurers over modifications, that if you don't declare, your car is in all respects uninsured.

Very interested to hear other's views.

The only part of your car that will no longer have a warranty would be the ECU, Turbo and Engine.

Your gearbox, chassis, suspension, interior etc will still be covered.

I have mapped my last 3 skoda cars and my previous vRS was in a very high and quite obvious state of tune. Yet i still had work carried out under warranty.

Mapping as long as it is done by a reputable tuner is very safe. I mapped my last vRS at 5k miles and that was still going strong when i sold it at 67k miles. It also got driven at very high speed for the first 10 months of it's life as i was living in the Fatherland and made full use of the power on the Autobahn's

BS!

In Estonia we have officially recommended MTM (German tuner) for remaps and all warranty remains valid. Point!

Maybe UK is a different world but at least here I would have no hesitation to do it.

Creating all this fuss without knowing the facts is a silly way to approach the question - talk to your local dealer and also talk to QS Tuning in West-Sussex for example...

How is what I said BS??

Care to elaborate how me saying I had my car mapped at 5k miles and it was still going strong at 67k miles? There are plenty of threads on this forum of the work I carried out and the new owner is a member of this forum.

Or the fact that I had warranty work done whilst being modified?

Or the fact that only the bit you alter is affected by the warranty??

As you say maybe Estonia allow certain tuners and you keep your warranty but in the UK it is different. If for example you alter the suspension you can't claim for that under warranty. But if your boot lock then failed it will still be covered under warranty.

Having invested considerable money tuning my last vRS (circa £8k) and well on the way with my current one I would suggest I am armed with all the facts needed to give the OP some advice. Which is the advice in my previous post.

How is what I said BS??

Care to elaborate how me saying I had my car mapped at 5k miles and it was still going strong at 67k miles? There are plenty of threads on this forum of the work I carried out and the new owner is a member of this forum.

Or the fact that I had warranty work done whilst being modified?

Or the fact that only the bit you alter is affected by the warranty??

As you say maybe Estonia allow certain tuners and you keep your warranty but in the UK it is different. If for example you alter the suspension you can't claim for that under warranty. But if your boot lock then failed it will still be covered under warranty.

Having invested considerable money tuning my last vRS (circa £8k) and well on the way with my current one I would suggest I am armed with all the facts needed to give the OP some advice. Which is the advice in my previous post.

Well to get back to my original question: Is anyone out there aware if Skoda are likely to introduce a Superb with 170bhp/DSG/4x4 Estate? A simple yes or no will suffice. Thanks.

. . . . I tow a caravan) hence 4 X 4 requirement

As said previously, "why the need for 4x4?"

I never towed a caravan, but did tow trailers for many miles with a 'simple' 4x2 FWD and had no trouble - on tarmac.

Do you really need 4x4 and/or All Terrain tyres for a caravan these days? I have a 170 DSG and luuuuuuuuv it. I chose the higher power that can be appreciated every day over the extra weight of 4 wheel drive running gear that might be appreciated twice a year.

Well to get back to my original question: Is anyone out there aware if Skoda are likely to introduce a Superb with 170bhp/DSG/4x4 Estate? A simple yes or no will suffice. Thanks.

I think that'll be a NO then.

Well to get back to my original question: Is anyone out there aware if Skoda are likely to introduce a Superb with 170bhp/DSG/4x4 Estate? A simple yes or no will suffice. Thanks.

OK, see post # 4 in this tread then. Are you really sure you will miss the extra grunt of the 170? In normal everyday use I will guess that you does not miss it. For me thats a quite another story...

/Superbjoser

OK, see post # 4 in this tread then. Are you really sure you will miss the extra grunt of the 170? In normal everyday use I will guess that you does not miss it. For me thats a quite another story...

/Superbjoser

I started this thread with a simple question, the reason for the 4x4 is I tow my van during the winter months also, and to pull a caravan off wet grass in a farm field does sometimes require 4x4, so, to sum up from the answers given, there is no prospect of Skoda introducing a 170 DSG 4x4 estate!

As said previously, "why the need for 4x4?"

I think the answer for this is the great british winters we now have had 2-3 years in a row, My VRS CR170 2WD is parked up for 4 weeks where I live. Hence the Yeti 4x4, my next car will be 4x4 too, and the Superb Elegance Estate CR170 4x4 is looking like the best bet to replace my VRS estate, shame about the DSG gearbox, but I can live without it.

Hi, before you dismiss the 140 check out it's torque figure of 320Nm against the 170, it's only a 30Nm drop and speaking as a seasoned caravanner with a heavy single axle van I doubt you'd notice it. It's torque you'll need to get your rig moving not outright power (and a 140 will sustain 60mph all day long). Plus the tax on the 140 is less and in 3 years by which time the government will be crucifying anything that emits more than a squeak of CO2 you may regret not getting the smallest engine that will do the job. Remember the 4x4 system on the Superb is only part time and won't kick in properly until you induce some slip at the front end. I too always thought 4WD was a must until I was in a boggy field in Devon with a FWD Audi A6 2.0 8v petrol estate and a 1.5tonne van. I had to pull it uphill onto a track and was convinced we'd need a tractor to help. However, it was absolutely no problem at all and front that moment on I decided 4WD wasn't for me.

Double posted due to lemonade in keyboard

Edited 3 September, 201114 yr by cooliospoolio

Hi, before you dismiss the 140 check out it's torque figure of 320Nm against the 170, it's only a 30Nm drop and speaking as a seasoned caravanner with a heavy single axle van I doubt you'd notice it. It's torque you'll need to get your rig moving not outright power (and a 140 will sustain 60mph all day long). Plus the tax on the 140 is less and in 3 years by which time the government will be crucifying anything that emits more than a squeak of CO2 you may regret not getting the smallest engine that will do the job. Remember the 4x4 system on the Superb is only part time and won't kick in properly until you induce some slip at the front end. I too always thought 4WD was a must until I was in a boggy field in Devon with a FWD Audi A6 2.0 8v petrol estate and a 1.5tonne van. I had to pull it uphill onto a track and was convinced we'd need a tractor to help. However, it was absolutely no problem at all and front that moment on I decided 4WD wasn't for me.

Hi, before you dismiss the 140 check out it's torque figure of 320Nm against the 170, it's only a 30Nm drop and speaking as a seasoned caravanner with a heavy single axle van I doubt you'd notice it. It's torque you'll need to get your rig moving not outright power (and a 140 will sustain 60mph all day long). Plus the tax on the 140 is less and in 3 years by which time the government will be crucifying anything that emits more than a squeak of CO2 you may regret not getting the smallest engine that will do the job. Remember the 4x4 system on the Superb is only part time and won't kick in properly until you induce some slip at the front end. I too always thought 4WD was a must until I was in a boggy field in Devon with a FWD Audi A6 2.0 8v petrol estate and a 1.5tonne van. I had to pull it uphill onto a track and was convinced we'd need a tractor to help. However, it was absolutely no problem at all and front that moment on I decided 4WD wasn't for me.