Does anyone know what these are like. Choosing weather to go for this or the PD160 air intake and the green panel filter, or the piper cross induction....

Here the piper cross induction: http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Performance/Air_Filters_Accessories/Pipercross_Viper_Induction_Kit/564/0/78334/40890

Unit 18 recommend them. Few other reports suggest they hinder performance though.

Bit of a swings and roundabouts situation.

I'll be going down the green cotten and pd160 route when I get mine, but I'm biased as I already have a pd160 from my polo.

No need for it really

Unit 18 recommend them. Few other reports suggest they hinder performance though.

Bit of a swings and roundabouts situation.

I'll be going down the green cotten and pd160 route when I get mine, but I'm biased as I already have a pd160 from my polo.

That's like Comet recommending a Samsung 52" Plasma TV which they just happen to sell

Guys, really?

That's like Comet recommending a Samsung 52" Plasma TV which they just happen to sell

Guys, really?

I based my reply upon randomly coming across two accounts of people on here using the system after a unit 18 recommendation. And another account referring to system causing them grief.

Not on a basis of unit 18 simply selling the kit.

As they're a respectable company on here, I thought the info may offer him some clarification on the legitimacy of the kit (albeit the contradicting other finding I have discovered with other users).

Edited 11 September, 201114 yr by Tim_GTi

Unit 18 recommend them. Few other reports suggest they hinder performance though.

Bit of a swings and roundabouts situation.

I'll be going down the green cotten and pd160 route when I get mine, but I'm biased as I already have a pd160 from my polo.

Unit 18 don't recommend them! They just suggest a panel filter, who recommended it?!

Matt

Matt Booth, since you have a fragile turbo and a MAF on your VRS I would recommmend NOT fitting any filter other than a decent OEM grade replacement paper element, I suggest Mahle are the best manufacturer I have come across, however they are not all the same.

Tim_GTI, be careful what 'advice' you give to others, you of course, are free to damage your own car in any way you choose.

Edited 11 September, 201114 yr by sepulchrave

Matt Booth, since you have a fragile turbo and a MAF on your VRS I would recommmend NOT fitting any filter other than a decent OEM grade replacement paper element, I suggest Mahle are the best manufacturer I have come across, however they are not all the same.

Tim_GTI, be careful what 'advice' you give to others, you of course, are free to damage your own car in any way you choose.

Would have to add my 2p in with this!

There is NOTHING wrong with adding a non oem filter to your car, so pipercross, green, k&n or any other brand of aftermarket filter. As long as there cleaned when the need to be and the "oil" based ones are oiled lightly and I mean lightly there is no reason what so ever why it would cause half the problems people make out that they do. I know an uncountable amount of people who have aftermarket filters in there cars and not ONE!!! Has ever had a problem with there car once fitted or serviced! I myself have had aftermarket filters on all my cars I have ever owned and again I have not had a single problem! If you also consider the high amount of motorsports that use aftermarket filters in there HIGH POWERED RACE CARS!! Again with no problems. These mechanics are in some cases the worlds elite and engineering. people who strive for, power, reliabillity, longetivity etc... What seems to be the case is people who have started reading threads here and there on UNPROVEN results! And base this on fact and truth! This then gives you a case of "Armchair Experts".

Matt if you want good advise we are blessed in this country for having alot of excellent tuning companys who will give you some great advise. This forum also has some members whos knowledge is exceptional. But sometimes with topics like thi,s take them with a pinch of salt mate. I find it insulting that some one has the nerve to comment on another member who is trying to give you advise and remarks on hoe he is "free to damage his own car" And to also make the comment about comet selling a plasma tv is ANY relevance is again remarkable.

Unbelivable....

Edited 11 September, 201114 yr by TorqueXIsXCheap

Would have to add my 2p in with this!

There is NOTHING wrong with adding a non oem filter to your car, so pipercross, green, k&n or any other brand of aftermarket filter. As long as there cleaned when the need to be and the "oil" based ones are oiled lightly and I mean lightly there is no reason what so ever why it would cause half the problems people make out that they do. I know an uncountable amount of people who have aftermarket filters in there cars and not ONE!!! Has ever had a problem with there car once fitted or serviced! I myself have had aftermarket filters on all my cars I have ever owned and again I have not had a single problem! If you also consider the high amount of motorsports that use aftermarket filters in there HIGH POWERED RACE CARS!! Again with no problems. These mechanics are in some cases the worlds elite and engineering. people who strive for, power, reliabillity, longetivity etc... What seems to be the case is people who have started reading threads here and there on UNPROVEN results! And base this on fact and truth! This then gives you a case of "Armchair Experts".

Matt if you want good advise we are blessed in this country for having alot of excellent tuning companys who will give you some great advise. This forum also has some members whos knowledge is exceptional. But sometimes with topics like thi,s take them with a pinch of salt mate. I find it insulting that some one has the nerve to comment on another member who is trying to give you advise and remarks on hoe he is "free to damage his own car" And to also make the comment about comet selling a plasma tv is ANY relevance is again remarkable.

Unbelivable....

tl;dr

I maintain that these products bring NOTHING to the table and add an unnecessary level of risk through dramatically reduced filtration efficiency. What you choose to do is a matter for you, clearly you don't agree with me however that doesn't make me wrong

tl;dr

I maintain that these products bring NOTHING to the table and add an unnecessary level of risk through dramatically reduced filtration efficiency. What you choose to do is a matter for you, clearly you don't agree with me however that doesn't make me wrong

Next time I speak to a race mechanic with there race prepared cars ill explain that they will have to remove that part of the induction cycle. And as mentioned the "unnecessary level of risk" is UNFOUNDED!! Reduced filtration efficiency?? Does this translate into how fine the filters can extract unwanted foreign objects? Or how much extra air can be extracted from the same flow? As last time I checked they improve both these things which is actually PROVEN!! Its clear that I will disagree with you on this matter, but in a polite factual way.

What I dont agree with is comments aimed at other members as mentioned above!

Also for your knowledge along time ago I worked for a very large electronics store not comet. And you will find recommendations from staff are usual made on facts about the products! Usually catered to what the customer would require from there tv. And is in no way any bennift that one recommendation is made over the other. I also think if you would see the actual margin on tvs now days, you would from my shoes see once again how that comment showed no constructive value what so ever.

...As last time I checked they improve both these things which is actually PROVEN!!

Cool story bro'

Proof or...

Cool story bro'

Proof or...

I dont fancy typing an essay on this, espically as the f1 is on shortly. Am sure the op understands both arguments to the story.

I dont fancy typing an essay on this, espically as the f1 is on shortly. Am sure the op understands both arguments to the story.

Don't come here and slag me then cop out or henceforth ye shall be known as TorqueIsIndeedCheap!

PROOF!

No rush, enjoy the F1.

BTW I know nothing about soft furnishings other than as instruments of torture of course.

Don't come here and slag me then cop out or henceforth ye shall be known as TorqueIsIndeedCheap!

PROOF!

No rush, enjoy the F1.

BTW I know nothing about soft furnishings other than as instruments of torture of course.

Or maybe I dont have to prove anything to someone like you! As I said before the op has heard both sides of the story and am sure that they will make an educated choice on there future purchase. Sadly for yourself you paint yourself in a pretty bad light. Most posts which have been on discussion on product or services you have made yourself look rather remarkable. I dont need to "slag" you off, im sure you have your own insecurities, hense your previous bitter posts!

As well as this am sure the thread will be locked. What was a rather intresting and productive conversation on the good and the bad of aftermarket filters has been tarnished by your ill remarks. Must be hard to type in a cave as a troll.

And yer I do enjoy the F1.... I wonder what filtration they use

Are you mad at me?

So after all of this is an induction kit going to damage my car one word answers only please.

That's like asking will a remap damage my car, there is no one word answer. You just have to weigh options up

Matt

Give up I've already got the pd160 intake plus panel filter, just would of looked nice in the bay and nice sound!

Give up I've already got the pd160 intake plus panel filter, just would of looked nice in the bay and nice sound!

Lol. Don't blame you after all that.

But that bit of kit does look quite good and I personally would rather that kit than a aftermarket panal filter as I've seen 2 panel filters break down on the rubber seals.