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Skoda Yeti 2.0 TDI 4x4 140 ks vs Honda CR-V 2.0 150 ks

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In my last thread i tried to explain my experince with few cars for what im interested. After all that i decide to go with one of two:

Skoda YETI vs Honda CR-V

I'll try to explain as detailed as possible this time just about those two.

Honda CR-V is 2.0 Petrol, 150 ks, 192 nm 4200 rpm (ideal would be 2.2 Disel, but is 7500 eur more expensive compared with same equiped petrol version).

I like the equimpent it have. Xenon with washers, Leather/Alcantara Seats, Dual Zone Aircondition, Parking sensors front/rear, 18" Alloy Wheels, Auto Wipers wih rain sensors, CD 6 charger with 6 speakers and sub woofer, seats heaters, mirror heaters/folding.. This Honda it's better handling then Yeti on twisted Roads, and also quiter on the highway. It was very silent driving experience, and less wind and road noise then Yeti. Also the ride is perfect.. Not so harsh not so soft (ok, maybe just a little harsh, we prefered 17" wheels version, but too bad there is only this version right now, and still it's not that big difference to 18" wheel version). Also we love plenty of space inside, and a lot of deparments inside where to put things..

We also love that rear seats can slide front/rear and also when u fold them there is totaly flat space. Boot space is amazing (there is spare tire, and still a lot of space, and totaly flat area when u fold the seats. The quality of plastic and interior is amazing. Also i love the sound how door is closing, and have a feeling of quality. What we dont like:

The 2.0 Petrol is sluggish for this car, and i had to plan overtaking (had to switched from 6th gear to 5 or 4th gear), and on highway have relaxing and scenery viewing driving.. There is acceleration of about 10 sec (per specification) from 0-100 km/h, but It's not that bad, but still different to diesels we tried..There is missing the acceleration beween 80-150 km/h. The perfect would be diesel engine here, but it's so much more expensive here. Becouse of low torque i had to drive a bit more nervous (there is a peak of torque in one rpm area, so it's dont have smooth driving of torque of diesels in greater rpm range), and trying to have right gear and right rpm. Also i dont like the fuel consumption that it have.. It was 10.5-11 l/100 km in city, and on highway up to 130 km/h there was lower consumption, but above 130 it was 11 l/km.Around 110-120 km/h and if i drive very relaxed i guess it was like 8-9 l/100 km. Maybe becouse this was new vehicle (only 4 months old and just 3000-4000 km on odometer).

Skoda Yeti. I tried 4x2, 2.0 110 ks, Ambition. But im thinking about 4x4 version, Experience and 2.0 140 ks version. If i put similar equpment as CR-V, i have almost same price between two . With same price CR-V have parking sensors and leather/alcantara seats, and Yeti dont have parking sensors and have fabric seats, and CR-V have better audio (becouse of subwoofer and better highs). Im thinking about 140 ks engine version, since i was very impressed with 2.2 Diesel Engine i tried in Mitsubishi, and 2.0 150 KS dCI in Qashqai, so i hope 140 ks version in Yeti the same all the time high torque and power feeling. I like 110 ks version i tried, but still didnt have excitment, so i feel that maybe 140 ks is right version. Also i like idea to have 6th gear compared to 5th.Since i feel 2.0 Ambition on 16" wheels (215, 55, R16 tires), a bit harsh, how this 4x4 140ks, on 17" wheels would drive? It would be more stable on twisted roads? The jumping that i feeld from the rear end of the car, would dissapear? What to expect from this 4x4 140 ks version compared to 2.0 110ks 4x2 that i drived? Also the feeling of quality of interior, how doors close are lower compared to Honda CR-V. I dont like that squeak and rattling sound that we had on demo which was 2 months old, with 4000 km on odo. Is there any difference in quality of interior between Experience and Ambition?

We like the fuel consumption we got (5,9 l/100 on Highway and 7,5 l/100 in City driving). I love the flexibility of the rear seats, but still i would be happy if the boot was a bit longer. Again maybe this is great mix for city driving and long tours and holidays in same time (its always possible to put a Thule box on the roof). Also the handling was weaker then CR-V on twisted roads, but not that bad (better then qashqai for example). What do u suggest and why to choose for the same price?

Im into mountain biking, skiing.. I have a lot of short distance driving almost every day (less then 5 km). But there is some weekends that we travel, and every summer we are traveling a lot (this summer we passed 6200 km for 21 days). What do u recomend for this kind of driving? My average per year is 15000-20000 km.

Also in this moment we dont have a kids, but we plan in next future to have at least one (im saying this becouse of boot space).

And another thing. If i get Honda, i have better deal for my old car (it's honda), compared for what i get if i choose Yeti (in that case i'll try to sell my self my old car). Also Honda is on stock, so i can get it immediatly, while Yeti with specs that i want i have to order and to wait 3 months. If i choose 4x2 110 ks version Yeti would be cheaper (but i feel that i would prefer better engine so thats why i made a version of Yeti that is same price as CR-V)..

What do u suggest? :) Honda or Skoda?

Greetings

Don't forget that Skoda is the value (or cheap in some people's eye) brand. Honda is a premium brand more along the lines of VW. So you would expect it not to be the same quality. As it happens most people here seem to think that the Yeti is the best made Skoda so far and on a par with VW & Audi. A similar equipped VW Tiguan would be about £8000 (30%) more than my Yeti with all the options I have fitted.

I prefer the ride of 16" wheels on my Yeti, but use the 17" wheels in summer.

Go and test drive a 4x4 CR140 or CR170 Yeti. and a 1.8tsi to get a better price comparison with the CRV.

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Don't forget that Skoda is the value (or cheap in some people's eye) brand. Honda is a premium brand more along the lines of VW. So you would expect it not to be the same quality. As it happens most people here seem to think that the Yeti is the best made Skoda so far and on a par with VW & Audi. A similar equipped VW Tiguan would be about £8000 (30%) more than my Yeti with all the options I have fitted.

I prefer the ride of 16" wheels on my Yeti, but use the 17" wheels in summer.

Go and test drive a 4x4 CR140 or CR170 Yeti. and a 1.8tsi to get a better price comparison with the CRV.

Do u suggest that CR-V is better quality assembled with better materials then Yeti? Also im a bit worried about possible DPF filter issues that i read about and also reliability of TDI 140 ks engine compared to 2.0 V-TEC Engine. As i said i drive short distances everyday (less then 5 km per drive), but very long distances summer time and some of the weekends. How this affect DPF filter, and how safe im from the troubles? Also i read about some failures of Piezo Injectors of TDI Engines and problems with the Oil Pump. At the end i prefer more reliable car, and specialy if the money i save with fuel i have to spend on services..

What do u suggest about this?

About trying CR140, CR170 4x4 and 1.8 tsi not possible in this moment, since they dont have that as demo.. I have to presume :)Still i picked the CR140 engine as perfect mix between fuel consumption and power and torque (as first i wanted 1.8 tsi, but since it's have lower mpg then 2.0 140, i ruled it out).

Greetings

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If you have kids then the yeti boot may become a problem. When our son was born we had an Octavia estate and at times struggled to fit in much after we got the buggy in. We have only got the yeti now that he's 4 and we don't need to lug so much kit around.

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If you have kids then the yeti boot may become a problem. When our son was born we had an Octavia estate and at times struggled to fit in much after we got the buggy in. We have only got the yeti now that he's 4 and we don't need to lug so much kit around.

And what about reliability compared to Honda? Any potential problems with dpf or piezo injectors?

Greetings

And what about reliability compared to Honda? Any potential problems with dpf or piezo injectors?

Not common, the Yeti seems quite reliable.

It's probably similar (or not far off) the Honda, which interestingly is not as reliable as the previous model CR-V, so the reputation for reliability is not made on the model you are looking at. It's the old one that's more reliable.

The fourth generation CR-V is due in 2012: http://automobiles.honda.com/future-cars/. That could be why you can get the current version for a comparable price to the Yeti. List, the spec you quote for the CR-V (called ES in the UK) is about £2,500 more than a Yeti 140 4x4 Elegance with electrically adjustable seats, electric folding mirrors, 12 speaker sound system, front and rear parking sensors, and panoramic glass sunroof. Remember, too, that the Yeti has the diesel engine which you say you can't afford in the CR-V.

A mate of mine test drove a CR-V nearly 18 months ago and said it felt "tired" and in need of a revamp even back then. It's not unusual for manufacturers to load options on to the standard specs as a model gets near end of life, which looks to be what Honda are doing with the CR-V. Demand also tends to tail off when the market knows that a new version is due soon. That is probably why you are being offered a better discount on the CR-V, from stock, than you could get on the Yeti which - as the lead time should tell you - is currently in high demand.

None of the above means that the CR-V is a bad car. Honda don't tend to make bad cars. The Yeti is usually a solid car as well. A few owners on here have reported some squeaks and rattles from the interior fittings but they seem to be in a minority. I've certainly never noticed anything like that in mine. As far as the DPF is concerned, you say that you do a lot of short urban journeys with longer journeys at weekends and holidays. That mirrors my own usage and I've had no problems with my CR 140 in the 12 months I've had it so far.

In the end it should come down to which of the differentiators are most important to you. You cite the better handling of the Honda but complain about its more sluggish overtaking performance. For your day to day use (ie short urban journeys) I'd suggest that neither of those distinctions would be particularly relevant. If those longer weekend and holiday journeys are mostly away from motorways then you need to decide whether easy overtaking or better handling is the key factor for you; if it's mostly motorways then I'd suggest that the handling would be the lower priority. I've never driven a CR-V so I don't know how it handles compared to the Yeti. I do know that my Yeti doesn't have the grip and poise that my Impreza used to - but then not much does in that price range. Compared to the Impreza the back end of the Yeti can feel less planted but once you've noticed it a few times you realise that it's just a momentary thing before all the electronics (including the 4x4 system) kick in, not a full on disappearing-backwards-in-to-the-scenery type issue.

But then there's the difficult decision whether to get a nice shiny new car tomorrow, or wait three months. Now that really is a tricky choice!

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As ejstubbs says the next CR-V is already out. Here is an American test:

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/17/2012-honda-cr-v-first-drive-review/

So pretty much the same old same old. At least they changed the 4x4 system completely as the old system was hopeless in this video:

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/159259-4x4-systems-tested/

So as someone else said off-road the CR-V won't hold a candle next to the Yeti.

But to answer your main question: Get a fully loaded brand new CR-V (and ask for a huge discount as you know the new one is out soon) or get a secondhand Yeti 4x4 170hp. Job done.

In the long trawl we had in choosing out Yeti, we thought we wanted a CRV until we drove one. The back seats were dreadful, couldn't make the seatbelts work around the child car-seats and the boot was annoying. However the worst thing was that the front parking sensors aren't actually on the front bumper (just at the sides) so I ended up hitting the showroom wall with the dealer in the car when using the parking sensors!

Really really happy with out Yeti.

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In the long trawl we had in choosing out Yeti, we thought we wanted a CRV until we drove one. The back seats were dreadful, couldn't make the seatbelts work around the child car-seats and the boot was annoying. However the worst thing was that the front parking sensors aren't actually on the front bumper (just at the sides) so I ended up hitting the showroom wall with the dealer in the car when using the parking sensors!

Really really happy with out Yeti.

Can u be please more specific about boot? Why it was annoying? Seem that CR-V have much bigger boot then Yeti. Also im a bit suprised about seatbelts that couldnt work with the child car seats.. The problem was mechanism of the seatbelts or ? There is no isofix standard about that?

Also i'll check the parking sensors (in the front i think i dont need them).

Greetings

Darko

I recently had a CRV 2.2 diesel as a courtesy car for a week, so it made an interesting comparison to my 170tdi Yeti.

It was much larger ,all around (too large for me.)

The seats were hard and flat.

The steering was light, low geared ,and it didn't handle as crisply .

The steering lock was very poor .

It rolled in even moderate cornering.

It was a little slower,though just as economical.

On the plus side:

It did have a large boot.

The engine was a peach-almost silent (you couldn't really tell it was a diesel)

Very smooth,and it would happily drive in 6th gear at 30mph,whereas the Yeti has to be in 4th gear or it feels strained.

Now a Yeti fitted with the Honda 2.2 Diesel engine.......:p

We had a 2006 CR-V (current model version but I think there have been a few tweaks since then) diesel (IIRC) for 4 years. Top of the range model including all safety features, eg adaptive cruise control, satnav etc etc).

CR-V definitely larger, better/larger seats, much better designed and laid-out dash, but rather slow, clumsy and noisy. Manual gear-change also rather clumsy.

170 Yeti is dynamically definitely superior - more accelerative, much more nimble. Not as noisy as CR-V when accelerating but the Yeti is still no masterpiece of refinement. Seats less generous and dashboard ergonomics markedly inferior to CRV.

The seats may be less generous than the CRV, but I have found that I can sit in mine for many hours at a time and not get out of the car like a cripple as I have done on all my previous cars, which included BMW 5 series, and an Octavia.

By the way, when comparing the petrol CRV you really should compare it price wise with a 1.8tsi Yeti, comparing a diesel with a petrol will almost always come out in favour of the petrol for purchase price wise. The CR140 diesel is about £600 more than the 1.8tsi petrol and the diesel equivalent, of the 1.8tsi, the CR170 is £1600 more expensive.

Can u be please more specific about boot? Why it was annoying? Seem that CR-V have much bigger boot then Yeti. Also im a bit suprised about seatbelts that couldnt work with the child car seats.. The problem was mechanism of the seatbelts or ? There is no isofix standard about that?

Also i'll check the parking sensors (in the front i think i dont need them).

Greetings

Darko

It was a while ago, but it had this shelf thing along the middle but it was a good sized boot. The seatbelts tensioners just wouldn't let us pull ouit the belts to fit the seats. It was pouring with rain and it made me livid. The seats were very hard. It had isofix which isn't an issue for isofix seats but is when you don't as we did then.

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It was a while ago, but it had this shelf thing along the middle but it was a good sized boot. The seatbelts tensioners just wouldn't let us pull ouit the belts to fit the seats. It was pouring with rain and it made me livid. The seats were very hard. It had isofix which isn't an issue for isofix seats but is when you don't as we did then.

 

I recently found this thread and apologies that i forgot to posto what i choose.. At the end i choose Honda CR-V, in White Pearl colour and got even more discount.. So i choosed over Yeti becouse it have more extras, and payed 3300 eur less. Also the accessories were very cheap (winter 17" wheels + Tires, Bike racks, roof racks...). 

 

I still love Yeti a lot, and after owning this CR-V for a year (i passed 13500 km), i found engine a bit sluggish (compared to Yeti 2.0 TDI), and worst fuel consumption.. (im getting 10-12 l/100 in Urban driving, and 7-10 l/100 Highway).

 

 

Stil thanks a lot for u'r posts and sorry that i forgot to tell u what i done :)

 

 

Greetings

Thanks for the update. :-)

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Thanks for the update. :-)

 

 

This forum is one of the best i follow for cars.. So i needed to say thank u and to inform u what i choose :) Still sorry for delay of almost 2 years :)

 

 

Greetings

That's ok Specialised, you're still welcome.

My brother has an early 2008 CR-V and he finds it very much underpowered and lacking responsiveness.

Apart from that he's happy with it, although I have s sneaking suspicion that when it's due for replacement, he'll be looking MUCH more closely at the Yeti. :yes:

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