I have a 2009 octy 2 1.9 TDi and my partner has a 2006 golf also 1.9 TDi.

I'm looking at getting a code reader as my local garages charge £43 to read codes and cant or wont print the readout. I've seen kit on ebay but its not clear to me whether it will work on my cars.

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item415f30965c

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3cc7d9e226

but this site http://www.obd2crazy...hstd.html??says

"ISO15765 (CAN) - Controller Area Network, a new higher speed interface, just now being implemented (This protocol is currently not supported by any ELM32x or by our software)"

So is my car can bus?

Also there seems to be a load of free software such as

http://www.obd2crazy.com/software.html

but as far as I can see its all very dated, so if anyone can recommend other freeware/ cheapware that does the job that would be great.

It would be really useful to hear if anyone has used this gear and their opinion of it.

OK I Know, get VCDS etc. for that money I could get a car!

PS sorry for previous typo b computer changed 2009 to 1999 - showing its age!

Edited 28 June, 201213 yr by john.errington

VCDS-Lite and KKL wire should be in your budget.... VCDS-Lite can be run in shareware mode for free.....Try Gendan for a KKL wire.

Thanks Bruce: so Is the 2009 octy 2 1.9 TDi CAN-BUS? and the 2006 Golf 1.9 TDi ?

And would this be the wire?

http://www.gendan.co.uk/product_VAGUSB.html

This interface is compatible with the

VCDS-Lite software from Ross Tech LLC or VAG-COM release 409.1, and works with:

• most 1995-2003 VW cars with the 16-pin diagnostic socket
  
• most 1996-2003 Audi cars with the 16-pin diagnostic socket
  
• most Skoda and Seat models to 2003 with the 16-pin diagnostic socket
  

Sorry, I missed the cars at the start of the thread. Oh that I would read all the words! I mislead you about the KKL wire and VCDS-Lite.

VCDS-Lite and a KKL wire will not work with either of those. If you want to use VCDS - the least expensive close to factory diagnostic tool, you will need either a MicroCAN or a HEX+CAN interface. Gendan does sell both. Some of our other UK distribs sell the HEX+CAN.

I am doubtful either these products will be in your budget since you started this thread looking for "cheap".

Cheap is relative, they were only about £200 when I got mine, and a microcan is £208 at Gendan from what I can see.

http://www.gendan.co.uk/product_VCMC.html

That's about the cost of 2 fault code reads each, plus you can do a lot of other things and save yourself even more.

Otherwise there is something like this if you want cheap and basic.

http://www.gendan.co.uk/product_VAGVG2.html

According to many sites

"OBDII became mandatory for all vehicles built and sold in the USA from 1996 onwards.

It wasn't mandatory for EU (EOBD) sold/built vehicles until 2001 (petrol) and 2004 (diesel)."

And wikipedia: -

"The EOBD (European On Board Diagnostics) regulations are the European equivalent of OBD-II, and apply to all passenger cars of category M1 (with no more than 8 passenger seats and a Gross Vehicle Weight rating of 2500 kg or less) first registered within EU member states since January 1, 2001 for petrol (gasoline) engined cars and since January 1, 2004 for diesel engined cars."

"There are five signaling protocols that are permitted with the OBD-II interface."

However looking at OBD2 readers most exclude the VAG & Skoda from their suitability list.

and i read

"the Octy1 uses an OBDII port, whereas the Octy2 interface links directly into the CANBUS..."

SO:

Does the Octy 2, Golf 5 etc conform to OBDII? Which protocol does it use? Why are these the only cars that OBD2 readers cant interface to?

Where can we find some real information about the standards and compliance for these cars? (ie post 2004 Audi, VW, Skoda?)

I have a 2009 octy 2 1.9 TDi and my partner has a 2006 golf also 1.9 TDi.

I'm looking at getting a code reader as my local garages charge £43 to read codes and cant or wont print the readout. I've seen kit on ebay but its not clear to me whether it will work on my cars.

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item415f30965c

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3cc7d9e226

but this site http://www.obd2crazy...hstd.html??says

"ISO15765 (CAN) - Controller Area Network, a new higher speed interface, just now being implemented (This protocol is currently not supported by any ELM32x or by our software)"

So is my car can bus?

Also there seems to be a load of free software such as

http://www.obd2crazy.com/software.html

but as far as I can see its all very dated, so if anyone can recommend other freeware/ cheapware that does the job that would be great.

It would be really useful to hear if anyone has used this gear and their opinion of it.

OK I Know, get VCDS etc. for that money I could get a car!

PS sorry for previous typo b computer changed 2009 to 1999 - showing its age!

I am also looking for some software to enable me programme a transponder for a spare key I picked up after loosing mine. I live in Ireland and they are asking as much as two hundred euros for a new key. I have been quoted 50 euros to programme the new virgin transponder for this old key. The car is an 04 Skoda Fabia 1.2 petrol.

Can anyone tell me is this software http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/594446034-VAG-K-CAN-COMMANDER-FULL-3-6-for-Audi-VW-Mileage-Correction-key-learning-wholesalers.html capable of programming the new transponder for this car or can I disable the immobiliser instead. I already have an Elm 327 Bluetooth diagnostic device which came with a software CD but it's pretty usless really. Am I jumping from the frying pan into the fire if I buy this?

Not sure if you have an android phone (or tablet), but if so I'd look at the Torque App. The free version is fairly functional, although the paid for app offers a lot more functionality for £2.95. You also need an OBDII dongle (~£12). I use a cheap / generic ebay bluetooth type, which appears to work well.

More here: http://torque-bhp.com/wiki/Main_Page and here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.prowl.torque&hl=en

I have this bluetooth dongle: http://torque-bhp.com/wiki/File:Clone2.jpg