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A slight over reaction.

Not when you can't trust the car anymore as it lets you down, strands you in remote locations after failing to regen and going into limp and then you repeatedly need to go to dealers who are unable to fix the fault time and time again. When that happens its time to change it especially if your warranty is running out. My personal experience, my personal opinion from someone who has went through it.

Yes, agreed, but your "avoid at all costs" would suggest all PD170 Octavia's are as bad as yours.

Mine has actually been pretty good. Touch wood.

Now you've provided some more detail as to why you wouldn't recommend the PD170 it would seem that it is mostly DPF related.

The DPF isn't just an issue on the PD170. It is more of an issue on the PD than the CR but the CR engine (in comparison with the PD) is much newer and we are yet to see many high mileage users on here so any issues unique to the CR aren't yet fully understood.

The issues with the DPF on the PD are probably better understood than when you were having issues, also prices to have it removed have likely dropped quite a bit since then too (max £450) so "it will bring you nothing but trouble" and "I would avoid at all costs" I think are a little harsh.

My 2.0 PD has a DPF (I think, at least it says so in the option codes), though in the time I've had it I've neither had the DPF light on or noticed a regeneration and that is with lots of low RPM mixed city/motorway driving. If the light comes on and stays on, its going straight to Shark to be removed.

However it feels pretty unexciting compared to the 1.9 (130) PD I had before. If they put the 130 1.9 in the 4x4 instead of the 105hp one, I'd never have bought the 2.0.

Thanks for reply, what would you say is a decent mileage for one, I would be doing approx 45 miles a day to work and back all motorway?

Save yourself the agony and buy a petrol, cruise at 70-75Mph and get about 38-40 Mpg on the motorway without the worries. Might be a bit more expensive on fuel but the initial purchase price and slight saving on fuel could offset it. Resale value will be lower. Swings and roundabouts. Just a thought...

Save yourself the agony and buy a petrol, cruise at 70-75Mph and get about 38-40 Mpg on the motorway without the worries. Might be a bit more expensive on fuel but the initial purchase price and slight saving on fuel could offset it. Resale value will be lower. Swings and roundabouts. Just a thought...

You're correct in that petrols are cheaper to buy, but the OP hasn't indicated what his annual milage would be which could play a big part in his decision and looking elswhere on the forum the petrols seem to average around 30 mpg give or take depending on how they are driven, so if he's doing a fair few miles, drives 'with spirit' or does a lot of urban driving petrol might not be an option for him financially. Granted some diesels seem to have DPF issues (Not had any myself, but with mine being a new car it's not done enough miles yet for this to be a potential problem) so I can't say how significant this problem is in the wider context amongst PD and CR owners. Again looking on the forum the petrol TSI engines are not without fault either as there's a few cropping up now that have suffered cam chain tensioner problems resulting in major engine damage, again something to be aware of I guess if you're buying a car with little or no warranty on it, though again we don't know how big an issue this is overall numbers wise. One of the OPs reports that Skonda are now admitting liability for a tensioner problem and the damage it's caused, but it's been a bit of an uphill struggle for him to get to this stage so anyone else suffering the same problem might not be so lucky.

cheers

Ade

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Thanks for all the advise guys, wow what a great forum appreciate the advice, but ???? Confused.com :-)

Maybe a mint mk1 vrs again as my old one was faultless? Or re map on my 130bhp PD again been faultless, better the devil you know and all that!

Thanks again.

Bit late on this one, but never had an issue in about 200k miles with VAG DPF'd cars and currently run 170PD, 170CR and 140PD. We don't have his and hers cars, just drive whichever is appropriate for the load/route/conditions/parking etc, but my wife regularly does a 13 mile trip in rush hour. No issues or DPF lights ever although injectors were replaced on 170PD with improved response and MPG as a result. I now try to stick to a DPF friendly 2200 RPM on A roads as a precautionary measure, and only adjust gears to suit on motorways if lower speed limits apply.

Love my PDs. CR is good too, but the chassis is more dynamic in that car so hard to compare directly.

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