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Testing a V6 on Friday...

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Well, today was a fun day. Collected the V6 at 10am, well, after it had been brought back from being fuelled up and put through a car wash. The spec was identical to mine, so today was all about the engine and 4x4.

First thing I noticed was how quiet the engine was, followed by how smooth it was. I reset the trip computer too before pulling out of the dealership. On the open road, time to squeeze the throttle a bit more. A whoosh of V6 hum and a second or two pass and I'm already lifting off so as not to agitate the driver in front... even from that little squeeze I can sense the potential of this beast.

I had to collect the missus from town so a bit of urban driving saw and time to flick through the maxi dot; 24mpg.

A quick run on the motorway with the missus, up the slip road and another opportunity to let it breath... and nothing, it was caught in too high a gear and it wasn't quick to down change (I didn't press the pedal to the floor, but I still thought it would drop a cog). So, sliding into manual mode and pulling out from behind a HGV and its down the box a couple of gears and woooaaah here we go!! This is seriously quick. The tune played by the V6 is pleasant on the ears even at high revs, yet it's relatively quiet and certainly refined. By the time we've reached the next junction we're up to 27mpg. I reckon I could have got it up to 30 for my normal commute which is 40 miles of almost complete motorway.

Off the motorway and I've timed the traffic lights perfectly, we're at the line, with nothing else around. The engine is only just audible... even with the stereo off because let's face it, there's no point having one when there's a V6 up front. Lights go green and we go... and by God do we go. There's no scrabbling for grip on the slightly damp surface, no lag from the DSG, nothing... just the feeling of being pressed into the seats as we fly off the line. Changing to second, the DSG makes it feel smooth and there's no let up in acceleration, it just keeps coming, in bucketfuls. Before I know it I'm changing to third and having to ease off as we've reach the speed limit. This car could loose you your licence in one day!!

I had the Superb for four hours and walking back into the dealership I couldn't hide the grin. Richard, my sales rep laughed... he knew I'd be impressed, fortunately he knows to humour me. It's a lot of car for the money that's for sure, especially with the discounts to be had these days. For us however I think we've probably had our first and last experience of a V6 Superb, at least for now... I spent the next half hour chatting to Richard about the new Octavia!

Jumping back in my CR 170 later on and I missed the acceleration instantly... But the glancing down at the maxi dot and I can't help but smile at the 52mpg... but oh that acceleration ;)

Well, today was a fun day. Collected the V6 at 10am, well, after it had been brought back from being fuelled up and put through a car wash. The spec was identical to mine, so today was all about the engine and 4x4.

First thing I noticed was how quiet the engine was, followed by how smooth it was. I reset the trip computer too before pulling out of the dealership. On the open road, time to squeeze the throttle a bit more. A whoosh of V6 hum and a second or two pass and I'm already lifting off so as not to agitate the driver in front... even from that little squeeze I can sense the potential of this beast.

I had to collect the missus from town so a bit of urban driving saw and time to flick through the maxi dot; 24mpg.

A quick run on the motorway with the missus, up the slip road and another opportunity to let it breath... and nothing, it was caught in too high a gear and it wasn't quick to down change (I didn't press the pedal to the floor, but I still thought it would drop a cog). So, sliding into manual mode and pulling out from behind a HGV and its down the box a couple of gears and woooaaah here we go!! This is seriously quick. The tune played by the V6 is pleasant on the ears even at high revs, yet it's relatively quiet and certainly refined. By the time we've reached the next junction we're up to 27mpg. I reckon I could have got it up to 30 for my normal commute which is 40 miles of almost complete motorway.

Off the motorway and I've timed the traffic lights perfectly, we're at the line, with nothing else around. The engine is only just audible... even with the stereo off because let's face it, there's no point having one when there's a V6 up front. Lights go green and we go... and by God do we go. There's no scrabbling for grip on the slightly damp surface, no lag from the DSG, nothing... just the feeling of being pressed into the seats as we fly off the line. Changing to second, the DSG makes it feel smooth and there's no let up in acceleration, it just keeps coming, in bucketfuls. Before I know it I'm changing to third and having to ease off as we've reach the speed limit. This car could loose you your licence in one day!!

I had the Superb for four hours and walking back into the dealership I couldn't hide the grin. Richard, my sales rep laughed... he knew I'd be impressed, fortunately he knows to humour me. It's a lot of car for the money that's for sure, especially with the discounts to be had these days. For us however I think we've probably had our first and last experience of a V6 Superb, at least for now... I spent the next half hour chatting to Richard about the new Octavia!

Jumping back in my CR 170 later on and I missed the acceleration instantly... But the glancing down at the maxi dot and I can't help but smile at the 52mpg... but oh that acceleration ;)

Nice write up :)

I think if you're looking at the maxidot mpg then a petrol V6 is never going to be the right car for you.

My mileage is now at a point where its low enough that I don't really care about mpg, it's all about the driver experience. A few years ago it was a totally different story - horses for courses :)

Sensible move, v6 is a thirsty expensive depreciation disaster. Sounds nice but 260hp from a 3.6 litre engine isnt that impressive (its a considerably detuned Passat R36 engine at the end of the day) A 2.0 TSi is a better bet and in reality not a great deal slower; remapped would probably eat the v6

You would be able to get some magical torque numbers out of the 170CR diesel. And the 140 for that matter!

Sensible move, v6 is a thirsty expensive depreciation disaster. Sounds nice but 260hp from a 3.6 litre engine isnt that impressive (its a considerably detuned Passat R36 engine at the end of the day) A 2.0 TSi is a better bet and in reality not a great deal slower; remapped would probably eat the v6

Well, now that I've had my 2.0 TSi for a few days I'm quite impressed with the performance, ambiance & "relative" economy.

I think a remap is out of the question though, I've no desire to invalidate the warranty.

Fuel consumption seems reasonable, I think that the long-term average will be about 32 / 33 mpg, which is better than the 28 mpg from my V6 Mondeo.

It's a little difficult to arrange a race with myself but the Mondeo is probably slower than the Suberb, even though it has more power & similar torque,

but reached at quite high RPM's when compared with the flatter power & torque curves of the Superbs 2.0 litre turbo.

(The DSG box would also prove that my gear-shifting is probably not quick enough to win any sort of drag race!)

As for depreciation, it's a always going to hurt on almost any new car, but the Mondeo cost me £8400 when it was two years old & with 10k miles, so it was never going to be a financial disaster. We intend to keep it around for a while, maybe even enhance it's performance a little, 'cos we both enjoy the V6 experience & the unexpected fun obtained from a very chuckable estate car!

The Superb is a very different car, quiet, comfortable, easy to live with & capable, very suitable for it's new (elderly!) owner & a good replacement for an Octavia vRS. Maybe it's just more grown-up?

Forgive my ramblings...........

DC

Well, now that I've had my 2.0 TSi for a few days I'm quite impressed with the performance, ambiance & "relative" economy.

The Superb is a very different car, quiet, comfortable, easy to live with & capable.....

Yep, even easier and even more capable with the V6! :thumbup:

You would be able to get some magical torque numbers out of the 170CR diesel. And the 140 for that matter!

I can't understand why torque is so important - it's highly dependand on power and rpm, moreover can be "adjusted" (and in reality it is) by gear ratio. I can easily get thousands of Nm from a small motor like in my last project - 109W motor and 3,300Nm of torque :rofl:

Yep, even easier and even more capable with the V6! :thumbup:

Very true, but I've already got a V6 to play with.......

Well, now that I've had my 2.0 TSi for a few days I'm quite impressed with the performance, ambiance & "relative" economy.

I think a remap is out of the question though, I've no desire to invalidate the warranty.

DC

It might not, and only if detectable.

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I couldn't stomach paying £450 a year RFL to the Gov !!!

Try the Rep of Ireland where the equivalent annual tax is €2,350 per year. Hence the reason SKODA have sole none (to my knowledge) of this car (V6) in the country.

My CR170 4x4 now carries an annual tax of €570

I can't understand why torque is so important - it's highly dependand on power and rpm, moreover can be "adjusted" (and in reality it is) by gear ratio. I can easily get thousands of Nm from a small motor like in my last project - 109W motor and 3,300Nm of torque :rofl:

The engine 'power' is the torque multiplied by the maximum rpm. A lorry typically would have a slow engine with a very high torque, and a motorcycle would have a fast engine with a low torque, and they will both have similar power output. Similarly, diesels will usually have higher torque ratings than petrols, but the petrol will work at higher rpm's.

It's all about the nature of the power delivery!

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It's all about the nature of the power delivery!

You seem to miss my point :giggle:

Whatever the torque, you can chenge it's value by playing with gear ratio. Therefore you can have 400Nm in your diesel, I can have 200Nm in my petrol BUT then we have a gearbox plus the main ratio and the torque on wheels may be exactly the same :giggle:.

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  • 2 years later...

As my signature says...."on a mission to rekindle all V6 threads".... :D

Stumbled upon this.

So, Superbalicious.....did you ever go back and buy a V6 in the end?

Dave

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