Didn't you?

No, he clearly didn't.

Are you struggling with English tonight?

Didn't you?

NO I DIDNT! :think:

No one said anything about 'good'. Quite the opposite was said if you read the full context of the post.

Let's see, first of all you quoted the salesman, he was complaining about the size of the car. Bigger car for the same money is considered better by most customers. So in salesman's opinion, the car sits too close to Octy 3, both in size and in pricing. Therefore it is too good in salesman's opinion. Unless you quoted the salesman inaccurately, of course.

Secondly, the salesman is not mad and knows that if the car was smaller he would never be able to get current Rapid prices for it. So he wants better quality interior.

Why? So that he can keep raking in the profits.

Thankfully, Skoda Auto Czech Republic has other ideas on what customers want and for what price. Rapid sells in large numbers everywhere outside the UK, because prices there are sensible.

Edited 16 April, 201313 yr by dieselV6

I spot some forum members who have not found the ignore function yet.

Has been working well for me on this thread so far.

Shame RapidRonnie's thread about his new car got sent way off topic though.

Indeed, perhaps a certain person with a Roomster should frequent these parts less with an argumentative tone.

Let's see, first of all you quoted the salesman, he was complaining about the size of the car. Bigger car for the same money is considered better by most customers. So in salesman's opinion, the car sits too close to Octy 3, both in size and in pricing. Therefore it is too good in salesman's opinion. Unless you quoted the salesman inaccurately, of course.

As to how someone can tell someone they have possibly misquoted or argue with what someone has stated when you weren't even there is beyond me. What a special individual you are. Your opinion is incorrect and not what was written. You have assumed the wrong thing and incorrectly understood what was written. Get over it and move on. The salesman said it should be smaller - he meant so they could afford a better interior and to market it differently and more clearly. Apologies to Ronnie for sending off topic - good advice - that's a new one on me but thanks - 'ignore' function now utilised!

Notice posts #98 to #99, post #101, and posts #104 to #106 contain no factual data, merely personal remarks and whitewash. And yet you seem to attempt to lecture me... Facts please?

It seems that on hearing inconvenient facts, it's far better to cover your ears. I am just genuinely happy the thread is inhabited now by so many well off gentelmen who's only desire in life is to get closely shaved at a SUK dealership while purchasing a Rapid. For the rest of us, no such luxuries, I'd rather go through the pain of importing the Rapid than buy a factory order at 30% overinflated UK prices.

Edited 16 April, 201313 yr by dieselV6

30% too expensive? Is that across the board? So for the base spec model @ £12900 list price, you want it for £9030?

You know that in terms of list pricing that's cheaper than the entry level Fabia, right?

Any way, enough of that, Ronnie - how does the cost of insurance stack up against what you'd been paying for your Roomster?

I've just had a quote for my 11 year old Fabia and it's still close to £500 TPFT (only fifth year of driving) so it looks like I'm keeping this for another 12 months yet as I can't imagine insurance companies will take kindly to me having a bigger/newer car given these quotes :-(

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I've just had a quote for my 11 year old Fabia and it's still close to £500 TPFT (only fifth year of driving) so it looks like I'm keeping this for another 12 months yet as I can't imagine insurance companies will take kindly to me having a bigger/newer car given these quotes :-(

My insurance went up but only by about £10.

You can always ask your insurance company for a quote on the Rapid.

Don't forget your other costs will come down significantly. My switch from Roomster to Rapid will save me £170 per year on road tax alone.

My insurance went up but only by about £10.

You can always ask your insurance company for a quote on the Rapid.

Don't forget your other costs will come down significantly. My switch from Roomster to Rapid will save me £170 per year on road tax alone.

Yeah I've done the math, a £10k loan with my bank would cost me around £300/year in interest repayments but running the rapid between better fuel economy and lower VED rate (and no MOT for a while) would save me close to £900/year at current petrol prices (16k miles/year)

What's stopped me so far from going to a dealer and demanding they shut up and take my money is deciding whether I really want to commit to three years of loan repayments..

My other option is save up a bit and take out a smaller loan to get a S/H mk.2 octy with the 1.9 TDI

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30% too expensive? Is that across the board? So for the base spec model @ £12900 list price, you want it for £9030?

You know that in terms of list pricing that's cheaper than the entry level Fabia, right?

Any way, enough of that, Ronnie - how does the cost of insurance stack up against what you'd been paying for your Roomster?

I've just had a quote for my 11 year old Fabia and it's still close to £500 TPFT (only fifth year of driving) so it looks like I'm keeping this for another 12 months yet as I can't imagine insurance companies will take kindly to me having a bigger/newer car given these quotes :-(

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It's an injustice mate.

For me, I found Skoda finance to be the way forward. I'll be paying £290-ish per month for the next 3.5 years, and by then, the car still won't be mine as I got it on solutions to keep the payments lower, but there again, I see myself in a very different position in 3.5 years! The £1000 deposit contribution from Skoda infdefinitely helped and I put £500 down of my own.

Insurance wise, I'm going the other way to you - from group 13 to 10 whereas you'll presumably only be going up, insurance for me approximately halves. Comprehensive insurance was always cheaper on every quote I ran, but I'm sure you've tried all the usual tricks to try and push the cost down.

Insurance wise, I'm going the other way to you - from group 13 to 10 whereas you'll presumably only be going up, insurance for me approximately halves. Comprehensive insurance was always cheaper on every quote I ran, but I'm sure you've tried all the usual tricks to try and push the cost down.

Yeah the insurance group and value of the car insured would both go up a fair bit I should imagine. I've used all the comparison sites etc, fully comp is marginally more expensive although the cheaper FC quotes don't include legal cover whereas the cheaper TPFT quotes do and have a lower excess. Go figure!

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Rapid 1.2MPI

£8,968.36 OTR Czech Republic, £12900 OTR UK, 43% difference

Rapid Elegance 1.6 TDI CR 105PS DPF with all UK options

£14262 OTR Czech Republic, £17850 OTR UK, 25% difference

Both in same trim/specification, I checked individual items. Sources: Skoda Auto CZ Configurator and Rapid brochure.

Rapid 1.2MPI

£8,968.36 OTR Czech Republic, £12900 OTR UK, 43% difference

Rapid Elegance 1.6 TDI CR 105PS DPF with all UK options

£14262 OTR Czech Republic, £17850 OTR UK, 25% difference

Both in same trim/specification, I checked individual items. Sources: Skoda Auto CZ Configurator and Rapid brochure.

I don't disagree with you that the list prices are at best a little optimistic, but how much does it cost to transport the things in to the UK and then get them shifted from port to dealers? None of that comes free.

At the figures quoted though it would still make it cheaper than the entry level Fabia list price (can't compare the 0%vat offer as.... Well.... It's an offer/discount, not a permanent list price decrease)...

Have you done these same comparisons on the rest of the range? Is the rapid the only model with such a large markup on list prices compared to the CZ market?

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GDP is also 110% different. The car costs a fixed amount to make as it is made in one place only. Shipping costs obviously vary depending on where in the World they are shipped. Then there are other factors such as duties and other taxes which vary by Country.

There is an argument to be had protesting the UK price inflation, and conversely there is some justification for it.

Rapid 1.2MPI

£8,968.36 OTR Czech Republic, £12900 OTR UK, 43% difference

Rapid Elegance 1.6 TDI CR 105PS DPF with all UK options

£14262 OTR Czech Republic, £17850 OTR UK, 25% difference

Both in same trim/specification, I checked individual items. Sources: Skoda Auto CZ Configurator and Rapid brochure.

This is getting very tedious now and is completely off topic!!!

Also exactly the same price differential applies to the Octavia 3, so its not like the Rapid is the only model more expensive in the UK than CZ

Well, it's your money you give away to the stealers .... I won't. Just because both Octy 3 and Rapid were overpriced by the same amount, does not mean the price reflects value for money, especially compared to Mk2 cars. 0% VAT "offer" has been almost continuous since price were hiked up in the UK, and the obvious and very good reason for the offer is that Skodas are hard to shift at current list prices in the UK. UK sales figures probably cover 60%+ cars sold on 0% VAT offer (Fabia and Octavia being the bulk, Yeti is somewhat exception).

Also, to give you an idea how much value the new Roomster offers in the UK, given very similar platform to Rapid (half version difference in front, same version just different shape in rear body/suspension), I have worked out fully specced list price for my 2012 Roomster in Czech Republic to be £20013 for nearly all options ticked, or £15126 if you could buy the Roomster "Fresh" special offer with 1.6TDI in Czech Republic (but it's petrols only). By comparison, UK list price would be in order of £18000, and I paid at my local dealer £14500 in March 2012 for the same config thanks to 0% VAT offer. So it's actually perfectly possible for SUK to sell cars at a lower price than in Czech Republic and still be profitable.

Bottom line is, current Roomster is an excellent bargain in the UK and I recommend getting it (bar the 1.6CR) if you are after a largeish budget Skoda, while the Rapid is overpriced to the tune of 25%-43% depending on version.

Edited 17 April, 201313 yr by dieselV6

Bottom line is nobody gives a crap about your Roomster and how absolutely awesome and so much better than a Rapid it is.

Please get back on topic...

Ronnie - how is the car going? Done only 65 miles in mine before coming on holiday!

I still keep looking at a Rapid DSG in Sprint Yellow...

I saw a nice metallic light blue rapid this morning - one of the first I've noticed on the roads - and from the outside it's great.

We've been in Spain for a couple of weeks and are seeing lots of them, proving to be very popular here

Regards all

Juan

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Another thread overrun by SUK vested interests... :(

If you feel bored talking about pricing and value for money, J400 remember you started it claiming how much Rapid is different to the current Roomster and how much premium it should command. It is not different enough for 25%-43% price hikes.

RapidRonnie, please do let us know how the car is doing, as if ever 2.0CR ends up in the Rapid, it is my next Skoda purchase (though probably will have to import).

The pricing comparison to the Czech Republic is silly though and just asking to wind people up!

You can apply exactly the same to nearly all cars. Even the almighty Golf which retails at 349 900 CZK equating to £11632.57, yet the UK list price for one of those is £16285.

With regards to the Roomster comparison, I have already raised several points to counter that:

A - The Roomster uses older components and technology as proven from the VW parts catalog

B - The Roomster is a legacy model in run-out pending replacement, hence the discounting

C - The Roomster competes in the more aggressive supermini MPV class where prices tend to be lower than the small family segment the Rapid competes in.

Don't forget the Roomster still looks very odd, and not what a lot of people want.

The Rapid has a far more acceptable family car shape.

They look really good in black, needs a decent vrs version to get me interested tho

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