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We've got an arosa but wife's so her diction, as for the budget :) there isn't a budget tbh , it possibly will be a iQ 1.3 and someone said the cvt is good

Aygo, C1,107. They all have 1.0 Toyota triple, bombproof reliability and very light and good handling. 50-60 Mpg. Ok for a town car.

It depends on what you want to spend all the newish models micras vws are all low tax band the older ones are £170 silly for a little car only the picanto and panda fall in the £100 tax band in the 3-4yr old models the hyundi 110 hasnt been out long enough.Do you want auto or not better for a town car.

If you go for the Fiat 500 have a look at the Panda, same car but the Panda will be cheaper to buy and insure.

The thing that is amazing in a Toyota iQ is the space for the front for the Driver and passenger.

It is about as wide inside as any other car.

There is enough room behind the front passenger for an adult in the rear and some luggage behind the driver.

It is a roomy 2 seater for weekends away.

I like the slim and firm seats that are fitted and the options in leather are pretty good.

Drives on Motorways just like a full length car.

I prefer the 3 cylinder with CVT to the 1.3 4 cylinder with CVT (Multidrive), the Gearbox is different from the Aygo etc.

Not a fan of the manuals as the VVTi engine needs revs to perform and this works best with the Multidrive (CVT) on the 1.0 IMO.

You get the 1.0 iQ or iQ2, more spec, and the 1.3 iQ3.

Biggest downside is that you will almost always get tailgated and everyone will want to overtake when they see the little car with narrow tyres. IME more than they do with any other small car, including a Smart.

That is even if you are going faster than they want to,

or they can not even keep up with you on back roads when you are nipping on.

Handling is great, like an original Mini.

Nothing else on the road has a turning circle like it.

Worth a road test for every driver just to see what you are missing.

george

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The thing that is amazing in a Toyota iQ is the space for the front for the Driver and passenger.

It is about as wide inside as any other car.

There is enough room behind the front passenger for an adult in the rear and some luggage behind the driver.

It is a roomy 2 seater for weekends away.

I like the slim and firm seats that are fitted and the options in leather are pretty good.

Drives on Motorways just like a full length car.

I prefer the 3 cylinder with CVT to the 1.3 4 cylinder with CVT (Multidrive), the Gearbox is different from the Aygo etc.

Not a fan of the manuals as the VVTi engine needs revs to perform and this works best with the Multidrive (CVT) on the 1.0 IMO.

You get the 1.0 iQ or iQ2, more spec, and the 1.3 iQ3.

Biggest downside is that you will almost always get tailgated and everyone will want to overtake when they see the little car with narrow tyres. IME more than they do with any other small car, including a Smart.

That is ever if you are going faster than they want to,

or they can not even keep up with you on back roads when you are nipping on.

Handling is great, like an original Mini.

Nothing else on the road has a turning circle like it.

Worth a road test for every driver just to see what you are missing.

george

I'm sold :)

Just my opinion - Toyota iq, its a Smart imitation with 2.5 seats. Expensive for half a seat more.

Have owned a 500 they are not economical & the boot space is awful to the extreme as the plastic on the inside of the hatch intrudes badly to limit an already small boot.

For Small look at the C1/Aygo etc or Up / Mii etc or the Hyundai alternative ( one of the guys here has a hyundai as a driving scholl car & is very impressed)

Actually the similarity between being in a iQ and a Smart is almost zero other than the Exterior length..

But you will see that the moment you get into and then drive an iQ.

(and its 3.5 seats to be a little more like the thing,

some good value available in used iQ's from non Toyota Dealers)

An Aygo,C1 etc feel like being in a Small car because they are, narrow Track and interior space in the front.

george

Actually the similarity between being in a iQ and a Smart is almost zero other than the Exterior length..

But you will see that the moment you get into and then drive an iQ.

(and its 3.5 seats to be a little more like the thing,

some good value available in used iQ's from non Toyota Dealers)

An Aygo,C1 etc feel like being in a Small car because they are, narrow Track and interior space in the front.

george

What's economy like in the 1.0 auto?

on a 1.0, Multidrive (CVT) Euro 5.

i got 42 mpg minimum driving it for fun, and up to 65 plus mpg hypermiling it.

95 ron or 99 made no difference. Sainsburrys Super unleaded felt smooth and did OK for a few tanks then always back to the usual economy..

1.3 Multidrive (4 cylinder) was low 30's having fun and never bettered 50mpg on 99 ron Momentum.

george

For Small look at the C1/Aygo etc or Up / Mii etc or the Hyundai alternative ( one of the guys here has a hyundai as a driving scholl car & is very impressed)

If that's who I think it is, it a Kia Rio!

If you go for the Fiat 500 have a look at the Panda, same car but the Panda will be cheaper to buy and insure.

I agree with that but it's likely the cute factor (not to be underestimated)

will make the 500 more appealing to a woman. I swear it could have a barbed wire seat

and a spike in the middle of the steering wheel and women would still absolutely love them.

Thankfully they are more than just cute and are robust, safe and well equipped for the price

point. Also your resale value is likely to be higher as due to the cute factor. Loads of young

girls want them since thay are cheaper to buy, tax, insure and run than let's say for example

a mini (Which also seem to appeal to young girls) I've lost count of how many passing young

girls have said things like 'I love your car!' while I've been out washing the 500 on the drive.

Nobody says it about the Audi :(

I've lost count of how many passing young

girls have said things like 'I love your car!' while I've been out washing the 500 on the drive.

Nobody says it about the Audi :(

That's because girls like cute cars and boys like aggressive cars with a passing resemblance to Darth Vader's helmet. ;)

That's because girls like cute cars and boys like aggressive cars with a passing resemblance to Darth Vader's helmet. ;)

LOLOL :rofl:

In this week's Sunday Times they reckoned the little Skoda was not just a good small car but one of the best cars (whatever size) you can buy

Panda, 500 & Ford Ka are all the same. We went for the Ka as 'she' preferred the styling. 500s carry a premium as they're trendy.

I'd go with the iQ as well but I'm biased, work for Toyota me. It's a great little car, loads of room in the front for two people, tiny tiny turning circle, the thing almost turns on itself. Even the entry level one is well spec'd with 9 airbags and air con etc. the build quality of an iQ puts most big cars to shame, you can tell they are Japanese built. Personally I prefer the 1.0 3 cyl to the 1.33, it's a bit more characterful. If you can get one that was registered in June 2010 onwards it'll have a 5 year warranty too, not that you'll really need it with a Toyota. They ain't the most charismatic cars ever but they go forever.

Having just got back from Italy, the leading small cars there were mark I Pandas, Smart 4-2s followed by Fiat 500s and Fiat Pandas (mark 2). With Cinciquento and the Sicento not far behind either.

I've not driven any, but it shows where a country with a love of small cars places it's money. That said, they do seem pretty patriotic with their car buying, but the bigger classes weren't dominated by FIATs so maybe they are the best choice . . .

With the Panda, don't forget it's only a 3 star safety rating vs. a 5 for the 500 . . .

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