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It is official- published MPG figures cannot be achieved

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Skoda buyers might just be, 'People that buy cars & do not care what others think'

Its reverse snobbery syndrome,

& if anyone thinks cheapskate, then who cares really..

george

George

Taking three pictures of your dash while travelling at 67mph

Astounding from a man of your intelligence

Tut, tut

LOL.

Camera is fixed on the Steering wheel and the Air Bag is not in the Steering Wheel..

Feet for dancing and brain for thinking.

(& the Speed over the covered miles is the indicated 67 mph, there is no picture there while going at 67mph)

george

I always found the lowest figure the best indication of Mpg

36mpg would be heaven my 1.4 A1 is getting 33mpg or less

I had a polo gti previously & got 38-44mpg

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LOL.

Camera is fixed on the Steering wheel and the Air Bag is not in the Steering Wheel..

Feet for dancing and brain for thinking.

(& the Speed over the covered miles is the indicated 67 mph, there is no picture there while going at 67mph)

george

Odd then that your rev counter (the one on the left) is over 2000 rpm, and your speedo (the one on the right) is indicating nearly 70

Specsavers.

I am going at 70 mph in the picture going at 70 mph

and at around 55 mph in that picture.

Look at the Mileometer, and its plain to see it is a journey and at different points on a journey and the Average speed showing after a number of miles,.

*The point being the RPM's being done & the economy or achievable in a Twincharger and Supercharger only below 2400 rpm, and at 2400rpm, once above that the turbo cuts in then that economy drops away..

george.

Specsavers.

I am going at 70 mph in the picture going at 70 mph

and at around 55 mph in that picture.

Look at the Mileometer, and its plain to see it is a journey and at different points on a journey and the Average speed showing after a number of miles,.

*The point being the RPM's being done & the economy or achievable in a Twincharger and Supercharger only below 2400 rpm, and at 2400rpm, once above that the turbo cuts in then that economy drops away..

george.

My apologies, 3 mph more than I thought you were doing

My bad :(

And, ironically, I do indeed go to Specsavers :)

The whole subject cracks me up! Manufacturer published MPG values are not to tell you what fuel consumption you will be getting but are a mere comparison tool to be used when looking at different cars and trying to get an idea of their fuel consumption. Those figures I everyday surpass by a margin or underachieve massively depending how I drive and where I drive. I Remeber when I was buying my MK2 Fabia vRS the dealer told me to add a min of 20% to get realistic :).

As the tests are conducted in a controlled environment they are representative and comparable between totally different cars. This is the sole purpose of it. Simples :).

That person who complained us in the same league like people who buy a hot beverage, get themselves burned after they spill it clumsily at their own fault and then complain. Moronism is rife and the way society is set up these days it promotes it instead of rooting it out...

Specsavers.

I am going at 70 mph in the picture going at 70 mph

and at around 55 mph in that picture.

Look at the Mileometer, and its plain to see it is a journey and at different points on a journey and the Average speed showing after a number of miles,.

*The point being the RPM's being done & the economy or achievable in a Twincharger and Supercharger only below 2400 rpm, and at 2400rpm, once above that the turbo cuts in then that economy drops away..

george.

That's right. Moreover, at very low loads, twincharger runs in fully Naturally Aspirated mode where SC's clutch is disengaged and air flow bypasses the turbine if I remember the schematics correctly. This is where you get those unbelievable MPG's. Stratified injection lean burn helps a lot as well.

The figures are 100% bull. Honest John has a thing where people can post their MPG figures. The Fiesta 1.0 EcoBoost is broadly comparable with the Polo/Fabia with the 1.2 TSI in terms of performance (the Fords have a higher max output, but similar 0-60), but supposedly gets 65mpg vs the Polo's 53mpg. But the 'real world' figures are the other way round: the Fiesta gets about 43mpg, but the Polo gets 47mpg, and the Fiesta has the benefit of start/stop and regenerative braking.

Thing about stop/start is, you use no fuel when stopped,

but also you go no place.

& when stopped with an engine running and going no place ie not moving , you actually get Zero Miles per gallon.

Now thats real world.

Never mentioned in 'Official figures'.

george

The thing with stop/start is that its great on a new car when everything works well

When its old and dont want to start when cold or doesnt run well you risk stopping at every lights and not starting again

The idea of stop/start on some of the sheds Ive owned is quite scary. :)

Needless to say I totally agree...and,broadening this out,I have to say that whilst Briskoda is a great forum there are far too many threads IMO with people obsessing about fuel consumption.They tend to feed the myth that anyone who buys a Skoda is a just a cheapskate.

Have you seen the other forums for just about every other manufacturer! It's just the same on all of them. Fuel economy is just so important to so many people now, and it should be. It is the new 0-60 of motoring. Unfortunately, so many people haven't got a clue why the EU publish the passenger car fuel consumption figures, that's clear for all forums. Most don't even read how or why the tests are carried out and many of those that do simply misunderstand the process and why it's done then spread 'mythology' on the forums. If they did understand we wouldn't get all this confusion and frankly, rubbish talked about 'manufacturers' mpg figures. Then there are those that spurt venom at the manufacturer because they bought one of their cars and because they drive it all week a short distance, cold engine all the time, across town doing stop start, it fails to meet the EU standard mpg's. These individuals haven't got a clue! As Jabo says, the EU figs really are just for comparison between makes and models of what is possible on a certain type of drive. All cars go through the same uniformally identifiable tests which makes the figure really useful. No manufacturer claims anyone will get those figures because we all drive differently, go on different journeys in different traffic, and live in different topograhy and weather regions. It's a bonus if you can get the figures or exceed them as many do, that's how to look at it.

Edited by Estate Man

2 Pence a litre off at supermarkets, so almost £1 saved on a tank.

If you carry on and drive your usual way you can gamble that £1 buying a Lottery ticket.

If i win the big prize,

i will be buying several cars that do not much more than 10 mpg.

george

I remeber quite well when I was disgusted at the price of 84pence/litre of unleaded...

I regularly achieve Manufacturers MPG figures or better them.

eg, for a vRS ,

Urban 36.7, Extra Urban 54.3, Combined 45.6

This poses a question; why on earth would you regularly drive like this if you have spent good money on a vRS?

You could have saved yourself a good £2,500 and bought a base model.

I don't drive like a maniac, but I pat myself on the back on a long run if I crack 40mpg.

Recently I had to time an arrival time on a 30min motorway drive at 60mph in the slow lane and managed 47mpg, but, boy did I hate it!

Tony :rofl:

Thing about stop/start is, you use no fuel when stopped,

but also you go no place.

& when stopped with an engine running and going no place ie not moving , you actually get Zero Miles per gallon.

Now thats real world.

Never mentioned in 'Official figures'.

george

I have a wonderful idea!!! Why not automatically switch off the fuel gauge when stopped; that would do wonders for the mpg figures!!!

Tony :rofl:

Recently I had to time an arrival time on a 30min motorway drive at 60mph in the slow lane and managed 47mpg, but, boy did I hate it!

Tony :rofl:

My dilema everyday! Majority of my daily commute in conditions where using the lound pedal is pointless so on that strech a iget an amazing MPG. Then road opens up and I simply cannot help myself but to stomp on it :devil: That's what I bought it for! Needless to say the MPG is not amazing anymore :moon:

tonyfvrs,

because i can play any time i want.

But once you have lost your licence a few times you learn to stay near the National limits to keep your licence and play when safe to.

So National Limits and Average speed cameras give those figures in a vRS,

when not at play.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/261562-450-miles-in-a-vrs-450-mpg

george

PS , spent little money on a vRS remember.

'Much Cheapness', and the star sign for a vRS must be Gemini or Virgo.

You can have all the fun you like and not pay more than for a Basic Fabia.

tonyfvrs,

because i can play any time i want.

But once you have lost your licence a few times you learn to stay near the National limits to keep your licence and play when safe to.

Ah, I see your point George. However, I have never been stopped by the Police, been clocked by a speed camera or had any points on my license in 45 years motoring. But I do like pushing along, as you do, when safe to do so.

Tony :angel:

my wife regulary travels from home in Covntry to her parents in Oxfordshire, a distance of about 48miles, the best mpg we have achieved is 54mpg on that journey. In Feb i had to go to Birmingham Dental Hospital, travelling home down the M6 at a constant 65mph we averaged according to the computer 63mpg

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