A simple hybrid question

[Fred44]

I keep seeing talk of hybrids and have a question….

If you want.... I don’t know let’s say 210 BHP.

Is it as simple as you buy this turbo for £880

http://www.turbodynamics.co.uk/shop/mdx446-stage-2-hybrid-turbo-for-vag-19tdi-130bhp-engines-p-4858.html

It fits straight on to all the standard parts.

Then get somebody to map it for like £300 or whatever they charge.

And that’s it??

Technically that’s all you need to do?

Intercooler and clutch aside for a second.

[XLBaconDoubleCheese]

If the clutch and cooler are sorted then yeah. Everything else, injectors, exhaust etc etc will do that power easy

[PastyBoy]

In the simplest of terms yes.

However you may get more power with further ancillary upgrades (intake, air filter, downpipe, exhaust etc), and would struggle to give that power consistently without upgrading to better cooling (FMIC) and potentially without further upgrades to other parts your car is likely to self destruct (clutch) or struggle to get the power on the road (LSD or decent tyres)

[Guest BigJase88]

Lsd not really req at low 200's

Exhaust will get minimal gain

Air intake again minimal gain

[PastyBoy]

Was just highlighting potential worst case scenarios and best case fixes for it; by no means claming they are essential.

[Guest BigJase88]

Anyhoo! Not like you to be talking about modifying fred? Finally realised 130bhp isn't quite enough?

[Fred44]

Thanks for the replies – its certainly interesting and in the big scheme of things very cheap.

I knew 130 was not enough before I bought the car. However the 40+ mpg around town makes up for it

Well…. It does but I’m now so bored of the car I’m debating either passing it down to the GF or selling it.

But then I read all these hybrid posts and a little part of me wondered if going that sort of power would make the car more interesting and livable for another 18 months or whatever.

The money it would cost is nothing compared to buying a new car.

I don’t know.

Just crazy dreams at this stage.

How hard is a new turbo to fit yourself?

[PastyBoy]

It's not a hard job Fred having now changed 2 on my drive way following failures.

It'll be even easier if it's not for failure reasons as you'd not need to take the boost pipes and intercooler out to pick bits of impellor out of them!

you could probably do it in a couple of hours i reckon.

In the simplest terms undo boost pipes, take off EGR assembly, take off intake manifold, take out turbo & manifold, reverse the process to put everything back together...

[Guest BigJase88]

Thanks for the replies – its certainly interesting and in the big scheme of things very cheap.

I knew 130 was not enough before I bought the car. However the 40+ mpg around town makes up for it

Well…. It does but I’m now so bored of the car I’m debating either passing it down to the GF or selling it.

But then I read all these hybrid posts and a little part of me wondered if going that sort of power would make the car more interesting and livable for another 18 months or whatever.

The money it would cost is nothing compared to buying a new car.

I don’t know.

Just crazy dreams at this stage.

How hard is a new turbo to fit yourself?

When i had my standard vrs i acheived 53mpg on a 400 mile trip

My mate with 220bhp and a hybrid acheived 56mpg!

Work that one out :/

Turbo not working as hard = better mpg!

Win win

[BossFox]

When i had my standard vrs i acheived 53mpg on a 40 mile trip

My mate with 220bhp and a hybrid acheived 56mpg!

My Jabbasport stage 3 (250-260bhp) used to average 53mpg.

More power on these engines doesn't seem to effect economy that much unless you drive a like a loon all the time.

[Guest BigJase88]

Edit it was a 400mile trip not 40 lol

[tommccabevRS]

If the car is standard and your bored of it why not just get a remap? So much better to drive when they've been remapped and a lot more pokey ! Then think about the hybrid route when your bored of that....