Ok so been a petrol head my whole life now thinking of changing to the dark side lol ... Found a VRs tractor lol near me 09 plate pre f/l with 55000 miles .

What's the difference between cr and pd is it also what should I be looking out for ?

All information will be great regardless of what it is !

David

PD FTW, that is all

PD (Pumpe Duse) combines both the injector and injection pump in a single unit. CR (Common Rail) is a high pressure pipe that feeds each injector simultaneosly. IMO you get better regulation with individual injectors in a PD unit, but that could spark a BIG debate

This is a good read

Even though it's a pre-FL on an 09 (2009) it should be the CR170 rather than the PD170.

The PD delivers all its power in a big lump which is addictive, the CR is far more liner which makes it more refined.

The CR also copes with the troublesome DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter) better too and it marginally more fuel efficient.

And you don't have to worry about the cr engine with the injector recall. My car is a June 08 and it has the cr engine, if I had the pd I would have been sold by now. There is no way I would be driving about with a car that has diesel leaking into the engine oil and thinning it down so it takes out the turbo and untold damage to the bottom end. And when owners report it, they are told by the dealers to keep an eye on the oil level wtf.

CR170 is fine as is, but it really wants the basic stage 1 remap to make it that bit better. Not going to drive like a TFSI/TSI but a remap will bring it a good bit closer. Of course you will have a lot more torque and not be driving around with 55 litres of highly flammable petrol behind you. As said if 2009 I would have thought it would be a CR aswell, 58 plates onwards I thought?

PD FTW, that is all

PD (Pumpe Duse) combines both the injector and injection pump in a single unit. CR (Common Rail) is a high pressure pipe that feeds each injector simultaneosly. IMO you get better regulation with individual injectors in a PD unit, but that could spark a BIG debate

This is a good read

This is the big boys section of forum, do one shopping trolley boy! :p

This is the big boys section of forum, do one shopping trolley boy! :p

Meh

CR diesel is v good. Its not as fun as a TSi no question in fact driven at normal speeds you could accuse it of being a bit dull but chuck down the hammer and its plenty quick, v torquey at lower to medium engine speeds and produces a nice wide band of smooth power between 1500 and about 4.5k RPM. Initial power delivery is a bit soft compared to a PD but the CR is alot smoother and quieter and while it may not feel it its just as quick if not quicker just needs to be revved harder. All this and can easily achieve 50+ mpg driven half sensibly, well over 40 if not.

Stick a remap or tuning box on one and its about standard TSi quick but still way more efficient.

DPF on a CR car not a problem as long as its not just been driven a few miles here and there all its life, so long as ita had a relatively normal life (i.e has fairly regularly seen an A road or motorway) nothing to worry about. An 09 plate pre FL "should" be a CR car but its worth checking, the engine covers look different on the two cars thats rhe easiest way to tell.

I had a bet with myself, if I didn't post that pic, how long until you would.

Thanks for the input guys ... Is there anything that I should look out for apart from the normal stuff ?

I had a bet with myself, if I didn't post that pic, how long until you would.

It took me ages, I need to feel as though I've got my monies worth!

Thanks for the input guys ... Is there anything that I should look out for apart from the normal stuff ?

Service history.

1) Fixed intervals - every year or 10,000 miles, whichever is reached first. Good for regular fresh oil.

2) Variable intervals - up to 20,000 miles or two years. The car monitors the oil, number of cold starts and types of journey etc. and decides for itself when it wants servicing. Ideal for those with higher annual mileages who spend a lot of time on the motorway.

It'll be four years old this year so will be due a cambelt change which is in the region of £350-£400.

Check the A/C blows ice cold (compressors are a weak point), listen for a drone and uneven rear tyre wear which can be down to poor alignment of the rear suspension. Search on here for 'sawtoothing'.

According to that pic, I have the pd engine on a 07 plate.

I had the injector recall done last week.....?

And you don't have to worry about the cr engine with the injector recall. My car is a June 08 and it has the cr engine, if I had the pd I would have been sold by now. There is no way I would be driving about with a car that has diesel leaking into the engine oil and thinning it down so it takes out the turbo and untold damage to the bottom end. And when owners report it, they are told by the dealers to keep an eye on the oil level wtf.

According to that pic, I have the pd engine on a 07 plate.

I had the injector recall done last week.....?

The PD170 in the vRS was replaced with the CR170 sometime during 2008.

Only the PD170 was affected by the injector recall.

hmm my change to diesel might be off the car had no history till 52000 miles wtf who doesnt serivce a car nowodays

I dont understand it either. A mate of mine back in 2006 bought a gorgeous BMW 320is (the special edition one with the hand built high revving 2.0 engine, M sport pack and gorgeous 18" BBS motorsport alloys - not massively quick but a lovely car, dealer had gone quite silly wi5h extras on it too) as an ex-demo got a good deal but still paid a pile for it. Treated it with kid gloves for ages, was due its first 2 year 20k service and just kept putting it off....in the end didnt bother and it gradually turned into a bit of a pile, loads of things went wrong with it and ended up selling it for a pitance as a consequence. I honestly still to this day dont understand why!

Edited 25 June, 201313 yr by pipsyp