The 2014 Ford Mondeo will be available with 1.0 EcoBoost engine.....

 

They must be launching that on 1st April! 

I still can't believe they are fitting such small engines to such

big cars.

You would if you drove it! It's the best engine on the market right now, in terms of what it gives you versus what you expect from it. I love it and I'd buy a car with that engine in a heartbeat.

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I just find my wifes 1.2 a bit weedy in a 950kg car, but it is NA though so maybe that's it?

I just find my wifes 1.2 a bit weedy in a 950kg car, but it is NA though so maybe that's it?

The 1.2 in mine is great, not at all lacking for the driving I do. Once the turbo comes in at around 1500 it pulls quite happily, I can't imagine the redesigned 1.2 unit in the MQB cars is anything other than a slight improvement again.

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I agree that the 1.2 and 1.4's are fantastic. If they can pull a yeti with the aerodynamics of a rubrics cube cleanly, they should have no issues here. I prefer the 1.4 however for slip rd acceleration and the 1.4 in the new octy is way ahead again. Look at the torque figures rather than the power figures to get an idea of in gear capability. My concern with the 1.2 tsi is longer term durability. One up its nippy and doesn't feel strained but I've just done a fully loaded run to Tuscany in my 1.8tsi and it feels totally at ease. Fully loaded with family and luggage onboard, how would the 1.2 cope over 3,000 miles and would it be straining and therefore having a knock on effect to longevity? Would the fuel figures also take a

Nose dive when used like this compared to something with bigger 'lungs'?

The 1.2 TSi lump is very good. I had a Fabia with the 105ps version in it for a few hours and its accelerative capability did make me chuckle.

Not so sure id personally want this engine in an Octavia though, be the 1.4 for me, probably one of the best small capacity petrol engines available right now. Decent power output and same torque output as a 105ps 1.6 TDi, impressive for a little 1400 petrol

On the subject of the 1.4 am I going mad or was the 1.4 dsg previously only available in Elegance trim? I really want a 1.4 se dsg and was convinced it wasn't available but I see it is now!

We collected our 1.2S about 3 weeks ago, having had a Mondeo 2.0 TDI for the last 6 years. To me the  car is a workhorse, we travel 8 miles to work and back each day, and need a large load area for deliveries, with an occasional 300 mile trip to relatives. We opted for a Skoda as we read the reviews, and the results of the Auto Express surveys. We test drove the 1.2 and the 1.4. We did not want a diesel due to the mileage causing potential problems with the dpf - our son has just spent £1,500 replacing a dpf on a Golf.

The load area of the Octavia was better for us than our old Mondeo which was perfect for the items we have to transport. We looked at the spec for the S and the SE and opted for the S as the extras on the SE were all none essential to us. We did add cruise control and reversing sensors as we had these on the Mondeo and liked them. We have a white car, and prefer the black handles and mirrors to the colour coded on the SE too - it looks very good.

 

Three weeks later, one long trip and lots of short ones and I am delighted. The performance is similar to our old Mondeo, at normal driving speeds the car performs well, and most of the time we are in traffic, so faster acceleration is not needed. Not had a problem overtaking either. For a base model car it has everything we need, except for the heated front windscreen which was a boon in the Mondeo. Loads of space, both for passengers and for goods, lots of nifty bits - hooks everywhere to hang shopping, a handle on the boot lid for closing it - my wife would struggle otherwise, the Bolero sound system is fine - particularly like being able to use an SD card full of music, and the Bluetooth phone connection just works as it should. In fact everything in the car is just right. If I have to nit pick, the cubby hole to the right of the steering wheel feels a little flimsy, and the headlights are not very bright, but I will upgrade the bulbs when I get a few minutes.

 

I have a friend with a 1.4 and it is little quicker off the mark, but I am happy with a slightly slower car and £2K in the bank!

 

We got the car on a 0% credit deal and we are well pleased. My only concern with the smaller engine is if it will wear more quickly, but as we will probably trade it in in 3 years, we shouldn't have any problems.

 

After 3 weeks I think I may becoming a bit of a Skoda bore - just delighted with it.

Good review Originalart. After doing your research and test driven the engines you were interested in you've chosen the engine and trim level combination thats right for you and at the end of the day thats what matters. Enjoy your new Skoda

@originalart Welcome to the forum, another happy 1.2 TSI owner!!

Thanks very much. I think one reason Skodas do well in customer surveys is that they are much better than you expect for the price paid. My Octavia matches my old Mondeo in every way except the tax is £30 pa instead of £170, the insurance is about £150pa cheaper and I am more than happy with those differences.

Struggling with the same problem too. I'm about to replace my O2 1.6 tdi of 4 years old. SWMBO preferred the new yeti, but finally didn't like its price. So, it will be an 03. My retailer keeps on saying that the 1.2 is sufficiant, but I fancy the 1.4. But it costs about 2.200 euros more, the same as the yei... So,in short: the wallet or the heart?

Well I was struggling too. Then I drove the 1.4. Went home with a smile on my face and the rest is history 

It's amazing engine for it's size but at the end you'll have to decide whether that extra power is worth 2.200€ more or not. Sure was for me.  

Struggling with the same problem too. I'm about to replace my O2 1.6 tdi of 4 years old. SWMBO preferred the new yeti, but finally didn't like its price. So, it will be an 03. My retailer keeps on saying that the 1.2 is sufficiant, but I fancy the 1.4. But it costs about 2.200 euros more, the same as the yei... So,in short: the wallet or the heart?

I know it's a kind of YOLO post but anyway: If you fancy the 1.4 it means that sometimes you like to step on it. If you can afford it, then just go for the 1.4 or you will end up regreting it.

Believe me, if you wouldn't need it you wouldn't even consider it...

Personally I'd go for the 1.4 but I'm ordering a vrs so would say that.

It would be interesting to see what the difference in the value the finance co think the cars are worth after 3 years as it might give you some idea on value retention.

I did drive the 1.4 and was really impressed.

I ordered the 1.4TSI. 

 

The Elegance had a lot of the options I was adding to the 1.2 SE (and some more) and with the SE/Elegance the options money is thrown away at the end.

 

In a straight line the 1.4TSI  0 to 62 8.4secs (53.3mpg) is not much slower than the VRS TDI 8.1secs (61.4mpg).

I ordered the 1.4TSI. 

 

The Elegance had a lot of the options I was adding to the 1.2 SE (and some more) and with the SE/Elegance the options money is thrown away at the end.

 

In a straight line the 1.4TSI  0 to 62 8.4secs (53.3mpg) is not much slower than the VRS TDI 8.1secs (61.4mpg).

Hi you'll love the 1.4 I've been running one for over 6 months now and can't fault it ! I see you're from Biddulph I used to work there before being exiled to Lincolnshire

 

The 2014 Ford Mondeo will be available with 1.0 EcoBoost engine....small petrols are getting more powerful, don't knock it 'til you've tried it.

 

They must be launching that on 1st April! 

 

Nope - available to order now..

 

I don't understand this "ooh a 1.2 is too small an engine" - it's the output which counts.  The 1.2 TSI gives the same as the old 1.6.  Would anyone complain then?  No - it's because so many people think of the ability of an engine to do the job by its cubic capacity, not its power output.  Rewind 25 years ago, and the 1.2 has a greater output than most 2 litre engines from those days.  Trouble is, if you say a specific engine has 105HP (yes, I know it's PS), most won't sadly know what that means in real terms.

Hi you'll love the 1.4 I've been running one for over 6 months now and can't fault it ! I see you're from Biddulph I used to work there before being exiled to Lincolnshire

Funny that, in my old job I used to cover Lincolnshire among many other counties - from Chelmsford in Essex up to Skegness.

 

 

 

 

Nope - available to order now..

 

I don't understand this "ooh a 1.2 is too small an engine" - it's the output which counts.  The 1.2 TSI gives the same as the old 1.6.  Would anyone complain then?  No - it's because so many people think of the ability of an engine to do the job by its cubic capacity, not its power output.  Rewind 25 years ago, and the 1.2 has a greater output than most 2 litre engines from those days.  Trouble is, if you say a specific engine has 105HP (yes, I know it's PS), most won't sadly know what that means in real terms.

 

 

Exactly.

 

I haven't driven the 1.2 to be honest, however a colleague of mine has ordered one, which he chose over to the 1.6TDI.

 

Said he tried them both, same power output of 105 BHP, but the 1.2TSI had been noticeably smoother and more agile in town.

 

Out of curiosity i had another look at the brochure and saw that the 1.2 TSI is 75kg less heavy than the 1.6 TDI and a whopping 100kg lighter than the 1.8 TSI (which I have ordered).

 

Combine this with the lower purchase price, fuel bills and road tax, I definitely think the 1.2 TSI has a strong merit.

 

I currently have the old mk2 1.6 TDI-PD which also has 105 BHP and for 7 years now it hasn't felt underpowered and it easily maintains 160-180 km/h motorway on cruise control. If the 1.2 TSI can do it without much fuss it would be a gem of an engine.

 

A word of caution though for the 1.2 and especially on estate versions - when you load heavily (2 adults at the back, full trunk), the front of the car I suspect will lift up considerably, which will have a bad effect on your aerodynamics and handling at high speeds. I know this, because it happens to my car, which is heavier at the front than the 1.2 TSI ....

I do not see an issue with the smaller engines, cars are magically getting bigger and lighter and new ways of building them are being found.

 

Fifth Gear did a drag test between 1.0 eco boost Fiesta and a 1.6 version and the 1.0 easily won. 

 

 

0-60 times are only one way of telling how a car performs - what happened to the old 50-70 in top gear figures?  They were much more "real world"..

True, but only really a fair comparison between cars with similar gearing. Lower geared lower torque/power car could still look very good if the low gearing was not taken into account.

Some people have just GOT to have the last word.

Umm... did you realise you were replying to a three year old post?