A few weeks ago my sister-in-law, who lives on Jersey, bought an ex-demo Rapid.  Denim blue metallic, 1.6TDi, 215/40 tyres on 17" 5-spoke alloy wheels, sports seats with red stitching, Amundsen+ sat-nav, Maxidot (I think), Blue-tooth, climate control, rear parking sensors.  Manual rear windows. No steering wheel controls.

 

Is it an SE with a few options?

 

Can't believe that she bought a diesel for use on Jersey when she does 3,000 miles per year max.  It will take her more than 8 years for the lower fuel costs to cover the extra purchase cost of the 1.6TDI engine over a 1.2TSI.

 

Sat-nav!!!  The car will only be used on Jersey and she has lived there for more than 35 years.

 

Sports seats!!!  Longest journey she ever does is less an 8 miles.

 

215/40-17 tyres/wheels!!!  Max. speed limit on Jersey is 40mph.  One wheel is already serverely 'kerbed'.

 

She could have bought a new 1.2TSI, without the not needed options, for about the same (or even less) money than the the ex-demo she has.

 

Amazingly there is more diesel fuel than petrol sold on Jersey.  Even allowing for trucks and buses this is astonishing.  Many used cars for sale are diesels!

You've woken childhood memories.    I always wanted to be a long distance lorry driver there.

A friend had a Rapid on loan for the weekend with that wheel/tyre combination, looked great but dreadful ride.

The dealer agreed with him, terrible extra, ruins the car

Regards all

Juan

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Sounds like mine (ex demo SE with options) except mine is the TSI.

 

It's a good spec, the sat nav means you get a nice looking touch screen regardless of whether you use the satnav itself and the sports seats are comfortable and supportive.

 

The wheels look great and the ride really isn't that bad. Sure it's firm but it's not crashy or uncomfortable.

 

The only thing I agree with is that she would have been better of with the TSI doing so few miles.

Problem your sister will have is not getting back to extra cost because of low mileage but keeping the DPF happy with no possibility of a good long run at a decent speed to clean it out.

Don't know if it is still there but I remember seeing brochures that specifically recommended that DPF diesels were not used on the channel islands.

Problem your sister will have is not getting back to extra cost because of low mileage but keeping the DPF happy with no possibility of a good long run at a decent speed to clean it out.

Don't know if it is still there but I remember seeing brochures that specifically recommended that DPF diesels were not used on the channel islands.

Nothing in Skoda literature or on web-site specifically stating diesels not suitable for Channel Isles.  However a Volkesvagen leaflet does state that VAG diesels are unsuitable for use in Channel isles.  However, VW dealer on Jersey has a number of them on sale!  

I have found the following in the owners manual:

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To clean the diesel particle filter, the vehicle should be driven at an even speed of

at least 60 km/h » at engine speeds of 1 800 - 2 500 rpm for at least 15 minutes

or until the warning light goes out with the 4th or 5th gear engaged (automatic

gearbox: position S) when the traffic situation permits it.

The indicator light ? only goes out after the diesel particulate filter has been

successfully cleaned.

If the filter is not properly cleaned, the warning light ? does not go out and the

warning light ? begins to flash.

The following is displayed in the information display:

Diesel particulate filter Owner's manual! £

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Despite the above the Skoda dealer sells diesels on Jersey! 

You can't trust car salesmen with such technical information, based on my recent experience anyway... I still chuckle at the one who tried to tell me that a seat mii had lane assistance when he saw me looking at the citysafe unit in the windscreen... Muppet.

Back to the op, does she visit the mainland often? Either the UK or France will do to stretch it's legs and clear the dpf, the only other solution is to reject the car (using the extract philbes posted to show that it's not fit for purpose) and get a petrol

Her last car went off the island twice in its last 10 years.  This one will probably never leave Jersey.  Have you seen the cost of the car ferrys from Jersey to England? Over £600 return for the Rapid and 2 passengers.

 

Isn't this a run on a motorway at very irregualr intervals (every 10 years!) will sort out the DPF a myth?  Surely the DPF attempts to regenerate when it is a certain % full, not just because the conditions are right?  I recall a post saying that after a 150 miles on a motorway the DPF had attempted to regenate in the centre of a city.

Edited 12 August, 201312 yr by philbes

My friend bought, brand new, an Octavia with the same engine last year, he does c2750 miles per annun, nothing more than 8 miles.

He is 11 months into his ownership and hasn't had one DPF light or knowledge of any regen

Regards all

Juan

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Edited 12 August, 201312 yr by Its me

Isn't this a run on a motorway at very irregualr intervals (every 10 years!) will sort out the DPF a myth?  Surely the DPF attempts to regenerate when it is a certain % full, not just because the conditions are right?  I recall a post saying that after a 150 miles on a motorway the DPF had attempted to regenate in the centre of a city.

 

 

Not too sure exactly how the DPF works on these engines but I do know that the soot doesn't burn off until 600°C unless some sort of catalyst is present to lower its burn temperature, I can't imagine it getting up to operating temperature in 8 miles at 40mph. 

 

One of the reason's I didn't get the Leon FR is because the 140 BKD engine has a Kat, not a DPF (also the PD170's injectors are problematic).

Edited 12 August, 201312 yr by Stonesie

My friend bought, brand new, an Octavia with the same engine last year, he does c2750 miles per annun, nothing more than 8 miles. He is 11 months into his ownership and hasn't had one DPF light or knowledge of any regen Regards all Juan Sent from my iPhone using my thumbs

That's interesting.  Hope my s-in-l is just as lucky. 

Not too sure exactly how the DPF works on these engines but I do know that the soot doesn't burn off until 600°C unless some sort of catalyst is present to lower its burn temperature, I can't imagine it getting up to operating temperature in 8 miles at 40mph. 

 

One of the reason's I didn't get the Leon FR is because the 140 BKD engine has a Kat, not a DPF (also the PD170's injectors are problematic).

 

We are talking here about the latest 1.6TDi CR engine. 

I know that, just putting reasons that I chose the engine that I did...

 

This link is quite informative about the VAG CR engines and the regeneration process...

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=263734

 

It also recommends against the sale of these engines on the Channel Islands or for inner city use

Edited 12 August, 201312 yr by Stonesie

My Rapid has the 1.6 TDI with DPF. The regeneration process can take place in the idle state also. The engine rpms are higher for about 1000 and around the car feels something's hot. 10 minutes are enough for the reg process to finish. There is no special additive present so no expenses involved. I had no problems so far but again mileage is very low.

Edited 13 August, 201312 yr by pvd2010

The regeneration process can't complete at idle, it needs a minimum of 23mph.

 

See here...

 

http://www.skoda.co.uk/SiteCollectionDocuments/Brochures/19246_Skoda_DPF_Leaflet_v7.pdf

Thanks for the info, but:

 

 

With the newer CR-TDI engines there are 2 different types of regenerations available depending on the actual soot mass/load. If either the calculated or measured soot mass is above 30g but below 40g you can initiate a regeneration while standing (Idle will be raised etc.), a forced regeneration while driving is also possible. Once the values are above 40g (but below the max 45g) the regeneration while standing is no longer available and the regeneration while driving is the only way.

 

The entire source:

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Diesel_Particle_Filter_Emergency_Regeneration