anyody driven the new model yet?

looks quite smart with those stubby little overhangs..looks powerful on paper as well.

Its a T5. Uses a 2.5 5 cylinder turbo job. 220bhp, this is the same engine Ford are putting in the Focus ST. Seems to get a reasonable write up in the mags but the price is a bit high, starts about

Modded S40 and Modded Octy 4x4 round a track, Octy was able to catch, but not really pull away...so about even.

I am surprised by so many new cars coming out going big power (Thats 200+) which 5 years ago was considered a special realm for "production" cars.

I guess they have to gett them in now as when hydrogen kicks in there will be no excuse.

Modded S40 and Modded Octy 4x4 round a track' date=' Octy was able to catch, but not really pull away...so about even.

I am surprised by so many new cars coming out going big power (Thats 200+) which 5 years ago was considered a special realm for "production" cars.

I guess they have to gett them in now as when hydrogen kicks in there will be no excuse.[/quote']

Power goes up, aerodynamics are pretty much where they were 5 years ago but performance hasn't increased that much.

Why?

Cos our cars are full of toys that we don't really need.

Power goes up' date=' aerodynamics are pretty much where they were 5 years ago but performance hasn't increased that much.

Why?

Cos our cars are full of toys that we don't really need.[/quote']

But economy is also better, as is safety.

We do get a lot more toys as well, but I for one would really miss aircon, ABS and electric mirrors, etc.

In real terms, cars are cheaper, too.

New Volvo S40= very nice looking car whatever the stats