Just wondering on what people's thoughts are about the following situation that my mother has had with her Peugeot 107. Firstly, this is her third 107 and the others have been absolutely fine in the past, probably all the Toyota DNA!

 

Anyway, her latest car bought / financed from new had a couple of occasions where she lost significant engine power under acceleration on the motorway, combined with an apparent loss of dashboard electrics. Peugeot did not find any fault, but the communication from the garage was fairly poor. The second time the car did this, she dug her heels in an was more insistent that she refuses to drive the car as she feels it poses a potential safety risk, so Peugeot UK got involved and she has had a long-term courtesy car since early December.

 

The Peugeot dealer called today to say that no faults have been found on the car, despite multiple test drives and can they have the courtesy car back now please.

 

She really does not want this vehicle back, as she has lost all confidence in it, which is understandable. All she wants from a car is as close to completely trouble-free A to B motoring, hence why she cycles round a new car every 3 years or so. I've tried to convince her to break the cycle, but while she can afford it I understand the logic.

 

Basically we're both at a bit of a loss of what she can do now. I doubt she has any grounds to reject the car, as Peugeot have been given the opportunity to perform thorough testing and have found no fault. How thorough they really were is anyone's guess of course. I suppose her only other options are to take the car back and keep driving it, until if/when the car cuts out again and then demand proper action. Or she can take the inevitable financial hit of trading in only very early into the finance plan.

 

I told her she should've tried a Citigo! Any ideas of how she can not have this car back?!

What age of 107?

 

Do they not have the same issue as the Toyota iQ, 1.0 litre Euro 4, 3 cylinder petrol, and some Aygo has,

EGR Valve.

Cars dyeing very dangerously at junctions and even on the open road.

 

Toyota argued hard that there was no issues and recently had to start replacing them on those where the owner shouted loudest.

The Toyota Owners Club Forum helped with shared information to get the information out.

 

Parts and Labour, it is not just the Valve, costs Toyota in the region of £1000 per vehicle.

It is the complete Revised Downpipe and Catalytic Converter.

Well thats what dealers tried charging Owners Out of Warranty, on the 2009 cars, they were 3 year Warranty before Toyota changed them to 5 years,.

But we were telling Toyota about the problems before the cars went out of Warranty and they were denying 

there was an Issue.

(a bit like Skoda/VW really.)

 

george

It's a 13 Plate 107. 

 

As far as I can see the petrol ones don't have an EGR valve, although maybe the latest generation does as they have somehow managed to reduce emission figures further on the latest facelift. The cynical side of me puts two and two together and equates engine issues on a usually reliable car with magic new environmental improvements!

Have the earth points been checked? Sounds like something as simple as poor earthing especially given the loss of electrical power internally. Before she gets dispondent worth checking

Have the earth points been checked? Sounds like something as simple as poor earthing especially given the loss of electrical power internally. Before she gets dispondent worth checking

 

To be honest I can imagine the dealer ran it through diagnostics - "no fault found". When they could be bothered they took it for a spin round the block, all ok. Now it's coming back to us again.

 

This was one of my first thoughts as I had a Mk 1 Focus that did this to me just twice, complete electrical failure whilst driving, and a clean up of earths sorted it. 

Just wondered with the amount of rain/ wet weather and salt that has been thrown down on the roads. Would there be a fault code thrown up as I can't imagine one would surface say if the battery ran flat or was disconnected for some reason. Might also be worth checking he battery is secure, jiggling it about can also cause such an issue if its not held down properly.

 

 Seems odd indeed but a possible in light of no other answers.

If the problem exists and it hasn't been diagnosed / fixed then the fault remains.

 

Take the car home and make it perfectly clear to them that the minute the same fault occurs (third time) you will be driving the car straight back to the dealers and formally rejecting it.

No help really, except when they say, never heard of that before.

 

http://fixya.com/cars/t13770470-engine_cut_out_whilst_driving

Bloody modern cars and their fancy pants electrics and gizmos.

 

Great when they're running right, but any trouble, and the computer sez "NO FAULT, then you're usually on a long road called 'on a hiding to nothing'.

 

Won't be having this problem on the Morris Oxford I'm looking for to replace the Octy vRS. 

Anyone see that Motorway Cops on Beeb3 on Thursday evening, and that wummun in the new Evouge that had simply coughed its clogs in the third lane of the motorway?

Couldn't even get the electronic handbrake off,  and literally had to drag it onto the low loader with the rear wheels locked. 

I suggest getting an in car camera fitted so that you will have video evidence if the fault reoccurs and she can give a description of what is happening.

They may not be able to see what is causing it, but at least you'll have proof that there is a problem.

I suggest getting an in car camera fitted so that you will have video evidence if the fault reoccurs and she can give a description of what is happening.

They may not be able to see what is causing it, but at least you'll have proof that there is a problem.

 

I was vaguely interested in getting one, so might be a good excuse to, especially as it does seem very intermittent. 

 

Knowing her, I suspect she's just going to trade back in at quite a financial loss, she's not the sort who has the time, energy or interest to really fight these sorts of things.

 

I'm going to offer to swop cars for a week or so to see if it happens to me and if so, what exactly the symptoms are.

Anyone see that Motorway Cops on Beeb3 on Thursday evening, and that wummun in the new Evouge that had simply coughed its clogs in the third lane of the motorway?

Couldn't even get the electronic handbrake off,  and literally had to drag it onto the low loader with the rear wheels locked. 

Yeah; the cop seemed about as "impressed" as we both are. 

I suggest getting an in car camera fitted so that you will have video evidence if the fault reoccurs and she can give a description of what is happening.

They may not be able to see what is causing it, but at least you'll have proof that there is a problem.

And maybe give the garage a chance to declare the warranty void because of this?

Just a thought, but I like the idea...

What grounds? Using a suction cup and cigarette lighter?

And maybe give the garage a chance to declare the warranty void because of this?

Just a thought, but I like the idea...

 

I don't follow.... why/how?

Any news on how she got on?