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Just roadtested a Yeti 1.2 TSI with manual gearbox and was very surprised with the performance, has anyone got any views on the DSG version. Ive got a Fabia VRS at the moment and I think the gearbox is one of the best things about it. My question is, does the engine/gearbox combination work as well as the Fabia bearing in mind the reduction in power.

The DSG box is brilliant and worth every penny of the extra cost. Works perfectly with the 1.2 engine. Do not hesitate and go for it. I have just purchased a 2014 Nissan Qashqai and I know the main part of the Yeti I will miss is the DSG box. Unfortunately Nissan use the CVT box which I had on a previous Prius and its gearing is rubbish. You do not get this with the DSG

Only driven a Yeti TSI 105 DSG briefly but it seemed very similar to my experience of three weeks of driving about in a Octy II TSI 105 DSG. Was quite impressed with its performance and ability to climb hills etc. 

 

The only odd thing of note was the gearboxes insistence on going for to low a gear on hill decent leading to high revs; had to flick to manual to overcome this.

 

 

TP

We have the 1.2 DSG - excellent combo

I have no doubt you will be inundated with enthusiastic DSG – 1.2 experiences, so here’s one just to temper them.

It should be stated at the start that although experienced with automatics I have no experience of the DSG box which by all accounts is the dog’s things unless it goes wrong!! (Especially out of warrantee).

However, last November I chose to go with a manual 1.2 and have absolutely no regrets whatsoever in doing so. The ratios make sense and even in town gear changing is not onerous – it is just part of the pleasure of driving the vehicle. I have no doubt that whatever you decide upon you will enjoy it, but for me, given the choice again – manual please. 

I have a 1.2 tsi Manual, I's a fantastic box but next time I'd have a DSG - you have to work the box a lot with the small motor, the DSG suits it better imo.

If you love it in the Fabia You'll love it in the Yeti.

Simples...

( I had a Fabia VRS as a courtesy car for a day last week and hated it.

Horses for courses ,etc.....Sorry. :giggle: )

If you do a search you will find plenty of info on the dsg, good and bad. I would definitely recommend you try and do an extended test drive in one before you buy.

do an extended test drive in one before you buy.

An absolute must!'

I was 'forced' into a DSG box as the car I wanted is only available with it.

Initially I didn't really like it, missed a manual box. 3 months in I & got used to it. 12 months later I love it.

You have to re-learn how to use the gearbox. Its simple enough to stick in in 'D' and just drive, but if you like driving there are lots of different ways to use it & little tricks to get the best out of a DSG box.

I know if I had been given a choice at the time I would have chosen a manual, even after a decent test drive. But having perservered and coming out the other end its a great choice :)

I doubt I will return to a manual.

I'll never return to a manual. Love my DSG.

One of the best advantages of the DSG over and above being an automatic of course, is how it works with the cruise control. It goes up and down the gears over hills or from a stop without having to switch cruise control on and off. On a manual car cruise control is switched off the moment you press the clutch. So it can only be engaged once in top gear and then again and again and again every time you gear down for a hill or something. More effortless driving you can't get than a DSG and cruise control.

Definitely agree. DSG and cruise control are a must. I cannot ever imagine going back to changing gear with a manual box.

Seems rather archaic nowadays!

I have no doubt you will be inundated with enthusiastic DSG – 1.2 experiences, so here’s one just to temper them.

It should be stated at the start that although experienced with automatics I have no experience of the DSG box which by all accounts is the dog’s things unless it goes wrong!! (Especially out of warrantee).

However, last November I chose to go with a manual 1.2 and have absolutely no regrets whatsoever in doing so. The ratios make sense and even in town gear changing is not onerous – it is just part of the pleasure of driving the vehicle. I have no doubt that whatever you decide upon you will enjoy it, but for me, given the choice again – manual please. 

We went for a manual 1.2 too, possibly for similar reasons.  By all accounts the DSG is excellent, but possible repair costs put me off, as did comments such as this from Which?:

 

"The Yeti initially scored a five-star result for reliability, but in the latest Which? Car Survey it has dipped to an average three: most of its problems are minor, but owners have reported issues with the automatic transmission."

We went for a manual 1.2 too, possibly for similar reasons.  By all accounts the DSG is excellent, but possible repair costs put me off, as did comments such as this from Which?:

 

"The Yeti initially scored a five-star result for reliability, but in the latest Which? Car Survey it has dipped to an average three: most of its problems are minor, but owners have reported issues with the automatic transmission."

Which is being very objective, how many owners of the sample reported issues with the auto?

 

Fred

Which is being very objective, how many owners of the sample reported issues with the auto?

 

Fred

On the strength of the following, quite a small number - around 14 out of 282:

 

Sample size: 282 people

 

Most common faults (up to 3 years old)  

 

Failure rate:

 

Other Minor 6%

Auto transmission 5%

Exterior trim 5%

Non-Engine electrics - Other 4%

Lights 3%

 

Failure rate: The proportion of owners reporting this problem in the last year

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On the strength of the following, quite a small number - around 14 out of 282:

 

Sample size: 282 people

 

Most common faults (up to 3 years old)

 

Failure rate:

 

Other Minor 6%

Auto transmission 5%

Exterior trim 5%

Non-Engine electrics - Other 4%

Lights 3%

 

Failure rate: The proportion of owners reporting this problem in the last year

Fair enough. Unfortunately most readers would only look at the results and not how they were obtained. I certainly wouldn't/won't be deterred by those figures.

 

Fred

It's also a pity that the auto transmission problems aren't split between the 7-speed dry clutch box and the 6-speed wet clutch version.  I seem to recall quite a few issues being reported with the 7-speed as fitted to the smaller engine petrol version, but very few with the (older?) 6-speed version.

Fair enough. Unfortunately most readers would only look at the results and not how they were obtained.

 

But there's also no sense of whether these were actual mechanical gearbox faults or something in the associated electrical switches (which presumably would be much easier/cheaper to fix) or were simply perceived faults only, ie owners new to DSG who didn't understand its subtleties and foibles. What would be much more pertinent is the number/% of DSG owners who needed a major DSG rebuild or new/recon unit. I suspect that the number of reported incidents would then shrink quite substantially on this criterion (and it's what makes surveys like this of only marginal value unless they can use genuinely large sample numbers AND report in clear detail as to exactly what might constitute each category of fault).

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