This makes the most sense to me' date=' so I hope it's right.

(I read it like this)

Annual service is a year from the last (annual) service, and any interim services are 10k from the last (any) service.

???? I'm giving up now. Gonna take the car to Skoda and say 'do what you will'...[/quote']

OK here goes. The annual service is to be performed at 10k miles or 12months, whichever comes sooner. So if you do <=10k miles a year you will have the first service when the car is 1yr old.

10k/12mth - 1st Annual Check and oil change

20k/24mth - 2nd Annual check and oil change ( though probably there is more to be done at the two year check)

If you drive 20k miles a year, you will need at least an oil change after the first 10k miles. You can if you choose have the annual checks done at the same time, but this isn't compulsary. If you are being advised correctly you choose an oil change only. One year after you bought the car, and in this case at 20k miles you have the car back at the garage for a second time, but for its first annual check along with an oil change.

10k/6mth - oil change

20k/12mth - 1st annual check and oil change

30k/18mth - oil change

40k/24mth - 2nd annual check and oil change

If you do about

Lummox - your argument is incorrect. .....

My advice to anyone contemplating a second-hand Fabia is to check out the service history very carefully and potentially reject anything serviced as Lummox suggests UNLESS it's done at least 20' date='000 miles a year - otherwise you risk a dealer rejecting warrantee claims...[/color']

My advice would be to reject the above statements altogether. How can you sit there and say Lummox is wrong when he services Skoda cars as per Skoda's policy EVERY WORKING DAY OF HIS LIFE??????................:confused:

Apologies but I can't let your statement rest without pointing out the errors yet again.

Whilst I can accept that Lummox may work for a particular Skoda dealer and can accept that that particular Skoda dealer has a particular regime for servicing, what Lummox has suggested in no way complies with the strategy as set out in the Skoda servicing schedule for a Fabia excepting the relatively rare case of a car doing doing at least 20,000 miles a year.

It is absolutely clear in the servicing schedule that the car needs a full Inspection Service every year (starting at max 12 months).

Here's the wording:

Every 10,000 miles carry out an Oil Change Service.

After one year carry out an Annual Inspection, the Annual Inspection always then includes an Oil Change Service

If the car is driven 10,000 miles before one year has elapsed, carry out an Oil Change Service

If the vehicle is driven more than 20,000 miles in a year, the Inspection Service should be carried out every 20,000 miles and not once a year.

If the Oil Change Service is due just a few months prior to the Inspection Service, it may be to your advantage to have the Inspection Service carried out instead.

In my case with a predicted 14-15,000 mile pa usage this means I have to have a full Inspection service every 8 months or so. My dealer confirmed that if I'd had an Oil Change service at 8 months then I would have had to have an Inspection service after another four months. My dealer advised the only "leeway" was a tolerance band of 1,000 miles - however I've not seen that anywhere in writing.

I count myself lucky that I get a Fabia with LongLife service, meaning that I can drive up to 50.000 km or two years between inspections.

The general experience of people with LongLife TDI's is that they never get called in for oil changes before 30.000 km.

What a lovely lot of money not put into the stealer's pocket.

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4082

Im going to see if i can get something official on this but none of the dealers I have worked for have ever got a car back in for an annual unless a year has passed since the last service, even if it was a lube.

Whats the point in getting a car back in and changing the oil and filter again after only doing it a few months previous?

I count myself lucky that I get a Fabia with LongLife service' date=' meaning that I can drive up to 50.000 km or two years between inspections.

The general experience of people with LongLife TDI's is that they never get called in for oil changes before 30.000 km.

What a lovely lot of money not put into the stealer's pocket.

[url']http://www.briskoda.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4082[/url]

The Fabia isn't and never has been available on variable servicing. Full stop.

Its a shame the servicing regime is so complex. Simple for me - I do 20k a year...

The Fabia isn't and never has been available on variable servicing. Full stop.

Sadly it's so in UK and Germany, but from model year 2005 all Fabias here in Denmark have variable servicing

I can partly understand it in Germany, where VW wants to give the true VW's an advantage..

Sadly it's so in UK and Germany' date=' but from model year 2005 all Fabias here in Denmark have variable servicing

I can partly understand it in Germany, where VW wants to give the true VW's an advantage..[/quote']

Oh, I stand corrected

As usual, assuming all members are here in the UK...

oh man this is confusing as hell.

Oh' date=' I stand corrected

As usual, assuming all members are here in the UK... [/quote']-++++ia

You could probably order a RHD Fabia in Denmark and wait 2/3 of a year to get it.

Straight from the website.

Fabia Models require a lubrication service at 10,000 miles and an inspection at 20,000 miles or 12 months whichever is sooner.

Straight from the website.

Fabia Models require a lubrication service at 10' date='000 miles and an inspection at 20,000 miles or 12 months whichever is sooner.[/quote']

Thanks for looking that up. I will inform work and check that this is being done. It works out better for me anyhow, more work and more money!

Odd how all our servicing practices have just been through a Skoda audit and nothing was pointed out.

Im a big enough man to admit i'm wrong. So i guess the best advice would be as stated before if you are going to be doing less than 20k per year have an annual.

suprised me too. I was sure my dealer said to me when I bought it 10,000 or a year whatever is sooner

I thought i was beginning to understand this daft servicing lark until i read this :confused: :confused:

Straight from the website.

Fabia Models require a lubrication service at 10' date='000 miles and an inspection at 20,000 miles or 12 months whichever is sooner.[/quote']

Nice to see the website correlates with the handbook extract I posted earlier - what is confusing however :confused: is the Skoda downloadable Excel chart which assumes without saying it that the car is doing 20,000 miles pa since it shows what Lummox is suggesting without qualification.

Some good responses here, last night I was thinking that I had paid for a service that was not required, now I am thinking the opposite :confused: My understanding is that (for a vRS) -

1. You MUST have a Lube Service every 10,000 miles.
   
2. You MUST have an ANNUAL inspection every 12 months
   

If you do about 15,000 miles per year, then you should probably be looking at ONE Lube Service and ONE Annual Inspection per year. Really it's like having TWO individual servicing regimes, if you are lucky, these may coincide and the Lube and Annual can be combined (Annual includes Lube), if you are not, then you may not be able to go the full 10,000 miles between the Lube and the Annual, hence the justification for having an Annual Inspection earlier than 12 months. That's how I see it anyway, but am I completely wrong............? The best fitting scenario must be those who cover 10,000 miles or 20,000 miles per annum as they get the most miles out of their servicing costs.

So I had my 1st annual inspection at 7,500 miles. My 2nd (24 month) is coming up at around 16k. Should I have had a 10k lube at 10k? even though it was 2,500 miles after the inspection?

And if I have an inspection (24 Month) on 16k, do I need a lube at 20k? AS WELL?

Thank god I do 20K a year, too much effort otherwise!

Think I'll just keep the car and run it into the ground. Then I don't need a proper service history. :eek:

So I had my 1st annual inspection at 7' date='500 miles. My 2nd (24 month) is coming up at around 16k. Should I have had a 10k lube at 10k? even though it was 2,500 miles after the inspection?

And if I have an inspection (24 Month) on 16k, do I need a lube at 20k? AS WELL?[/quote']

If your 1st Annual, at 7,500 miles, included and oil change, then you don't need the 10,000 miles lube service. If your 2nd Annual, at 16,000 miles, includes and oil change, then you won't need a 20,000 mile lube service.

I swiftly add that I may be completely wrong here, and would not be at all surprised if I am :confused: ............I'm just guessing. If you are a cash rich kinda guy, just go for Annuals all the time, then you'll be broke, but not wrong (maybe).

I will not be taking my car to the dealer in this area to get it's 20k done. I had to pay near enough 200 quid for the 10k service. And apparently it was NOT the annual (based on parts used and so on, it seems they were right on that). The hourly rate must have been sky, sky-high!

Have a feeling they will be resolving the issues from the service in the very near future (I've done near enough 5k since but I just haven't had the time to spare to go to the dealer so they can resolve the stuff that went wrong at the 10k service :( )

Seems that a 200 mile trip to find a different dealer would STILL save me a LOT of cash. Unbelievable.

I will not be taking my car to the dealer in this area to get it's 20k done. I had to pay near enough 200 quid for the 10k service. And apparently it was NOT the annual (based on parts used and so on' date=' it seems they were right on that). The hourly rate must have been sky, sky-high!

Have a feeling they will be resolving the issues from the service in the very near future (I've done near enough 5k since but I just haven't had the time to spare to go to the dealer so they can resolve the stuff that went wrong at the 10k service :( )

Seems that a 200 mile trip to find a different dealer would STILL save me a LOT of cash. Unbelievable.[/quote']

Your local dealer quoted me