Hi, well after leaving Skoda for Renault I am back, what a fool I hear you all cry! My last Skoda an 130bhp diesel octavia, god I miss that car.

Anyway I am now looking for a diesel mk2 but things seem more complicated since I left and I am a little confused? Think I have decided on a 1.9 just because I like that engine but can only find 2.0pd's locally (maybe a reason for that )? I am confused on engine codes, what will a 07/08 plate car have on its code? And sorry to bring this old chestnut up but if I get a BXE coded car will I come to a conrod busted block sorry end? Thank you

Depends what you want from it and what your budget is.

 

The 1.9 is slightly better on fuel and lower tax but the 2.0 has more power and 6 gears (you only get 6 gears with a DSG on the 1.9).

 

There's not much between them in terms of anything else. They are both PD so about the same noise wise. The 1.9 may prove to be slightly more reliable than the 2.0 in the long run.

 

It seems most/all of the conrod problems stem from poor servicing/maintenance. Most of them are due to owners running them low on oil or not keeping up with oil changes.

 

Stick with fixed servicing with decent oil and you shouldn't have a problem.

 

I have a 57 plate 1.9 BXE. It's a cracking car and the engine is pretty sweet.

 

Phil

Thanks for your reply, did the BXE code stay from 57 plate until the end of production? What's with the porous head on the 2.0pd or was that just early engined cars, I don't dislike the 2.0pd unit just trust the 1.9 more, had a 57 plate passat courtesy car once with 157k that seemed to drive very well.

The 2.0 porous head issue was fixed by about 2005 and doesn't seem particularly common in the Octavia. Not totally unheard of though.

Audi A3s got most of the original duff 2.0 heads as the A3 version went into production about a year before the Octavia mk 2 came along.

My car also has low miles like yours Mike. We've just ticked over 36,000 miles.

 

My 1.9 has a 6 speed gearbox too... :p

 

And as above they used the 1.9 BXE in a lot of cars. The vast majority are problem free it's just you only usually hear of the problems on here and other forums.

 

Phil

@Phil -- 6 speed? That got me thinking at first before I realised you have a DSG.............. 

BTW Are you going to be going to the national Meet 3rd August? Would be good to meet up.

 

 

Mike

 

Hehe. Just trying to confuse you!

 

Yes I am going. I am camping over on Saturday night. I'm either going in the car and taking the tent or might decide on the day to just take the motorhome down and sleep in comfort!

 

Phil

Looking forward to meeting up.

 

Take the car and use a tent, even if it's raining. The thought of taking a Fiat to a Skoda meet -- you wanna be ashamed of yourself.......

 

Mike

 

Haha... shame I can't tow the car behind me... the poor thing would no doubt conk out... it struggles enough to pull itself along as it is!

 

Yeah may just come in the car... it is a Skoda meet after all!

 

Phil

Thank you for your replies, like you say people only post problems! May I also ask you for thoughts on purchasing a 2.0PD engined octavia? The car in question is a 95k 1 owner full history example, again I only seem to read issues regarding this engine but there seems to be a lot on the road!

I have one of those engines in mine and bought it with 92k, full history and one owner so very similar. Its a lovely drive and while not as economical as the 1.9 it feels considerably pokier than the 1.9 I sometimes drive as a loan car at work.

Mine remains very clean and has had no problems apart from recent problems with sticky vanes in the turbo which fingers crossed appear to have been sorted by a recent application of Mr Muscle to the turbo.

It benefits from a spirited drive now and again and I suspect they are almost as reliable as the 1.9 in newer models.

Try and avoid the models with a DPF fitted though as the PD is not designed for one and they can cause more issues. I think these are only Scouts or VRS models from 2008 but I could be wrong on that so hopefully someone will confirm.

Adam

I wouldn't be scared of a 2.0. ours had one previous owner a full skoda service history and 192000 miles when we got it. It's now on 203000 and drives perfect. Ours is a dsg too! There will be the odd bad one with everything. But if looked after most will be fine.

Gavin

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I just passed my 2.0PD DSG (BKD) on to my boss's wife who is using it daily, it's 2006 and has 645,000kms on the clock (original gearbox and engine)

Another one for 2.0pd 140 if you after a bit more power, mine had done 143k with no major issues. go for 1.9pd if you want better mpg but overall both are good engines.

Me too, I've been really happy with my 2.0 140 BKD. I wouldn't swap it for a 1.9.

To be honest I don't think there is much between the two engines in terms of reliability these days. 

 

I have one of each and the 2.0 is a bit more refined and considerably more powerful, at the expense of economy. However if you drive it like a 1.9 it will get close to the MPG of a 1.9. I think you should drive both if you can and see what you think. 

Not forgetting that the 1.9PD, 2.0PD & 2.0CR are all basically the same engine underneath too!

Thanks for all the replies, due to my needs I have purchased a 2008 1.9 tdi ambiente with FSH 77k. Very pleased with the car and the Mpg, hopefully will be as reliable as my mk1, def will be better than my last car a Renault Megane!

One question I would ask is that when purchased the dealer gave it a service, looking in the book they have used long life oil, it was on variable servicing for first 55k but has been adjusted to fixed since and last two services. Should I get the oil changed or will that be fine until next service? I am guessing not as it will be superior oil?

long life oil is fine for both variable and fixed as long as it is meets VAG 507 spec, the only issue is cost as it more expensive than normal VAG505.01 oil which is also suitable for the 1.9tdi on fixed service.

 

If you are new to PD engines the only thing you need to remember, is to only use VAG 507 or VAG 505.01 spec oil as these oils are designed to prevent damage/premature wear to the PD cam lobes in the engine.

Edited 12 July, 201411 yr by wiilydog

I ended up going for the 1.9 as the 2.0pd are known to eat turbos. 

 

65k on clock now (30k when I got it) and going strong. I did have a new dmf under warranty though. 

Edited 13 July, 201411 yr by Malc

I love the MPG of the 1.9. Even with a DSG gearbox and a boot full of camping gear I got 56.7 mpg coming back from Keswick today. Was doing the speed limits.

 

Never once lacking in oomph either and pulled strong up the hills and picked up speed quickly to get past all the caravans

 

I've calibrated my maxidot too so the real world mpg is only working out as 0.2 mpg worse than the maxidot reads.

 

Phil

Each to their own, but consistently on here I find the only people that slag off the 2.0TDi are the people that have never owned one, so cant really comment on how good or not they are.

Just comment on stuff they have read on forums. Which has been stated in this post people wont write a post about how good a run they have had with a car, only when they have something they need to sort. As with the 1.9TDI there are a huge amount of 2.0 TDi's on the road throughout the VAG range of cars, and I am sure they are not all duffers.

 

Generally people who have the 1.9TDI seem to have a lot to say about the 2.0TDI and how bad it is. I currently own cars with both of these engines, and when it comes to performance, the 2.0TDI is in another league, while the economy in real world driving (i.e. not driving like a faggot 24/7) is marginal and a couple of MPG at the most.

 

 

Lewwy

 (i.e. not driving like a faggot 24/7)

 

Lewwy

 

Nice!

I too don't drive like miss daisy.

 

Keeping up to the speed limits and using full throttle to get up to speed etc.

 

It's then about anticipating the road ahead etc not all about maximum speed all the time. I often keep up with or catch back up to people who have been driving fast but not actually making any progress.

 

I'll be sad when we evetually have to change cars as I won't be able to get another 1.9!

 

Phil

It seems like a natural progression to a 1.6 CR. But I want a DSG but don't want a 7 speed due to all the problems. It would probably then have to be a 2.0 of some sort.

 

Won't be for a few years yet so no idea what will be available then.

 

Hopefully running this one into the ground and it has plenty of life in it yet!

 

Phil

Hi,

 

I have the 1.6cr and have previously had a 1.9 from a Seat Cordoba coupe(and some others). You will miss the torque! a lot. But it is a nice little engine, I am quite pleased with it and have a Combi that takes quite a bit of abuse in terms of weight and speed on German motorways.

 

If you just want the comfort and something that keeps up with traffic it will do nicely, if you drive like a boy racer it will do your head in and be quite a lot less economical than the 1.9 or 2.0 but will also be the noise levels you get on it (even more noticeable if you use the Premium Diesel). There is someone here from Portugal that has his 1.6CR on 140 instead of the 105 so he can be a quite good source of info on the engine mod if you want a little more poke from the engine (also has a combi in Black, do not really remember the handle).

 

As for the stupid comment about speed prior to this "(i.e. not driving like a faggot 24/7)"........just....... medical attention, do get some.....

as I said previously Mike, I am quite happy with it as it is from factory. no mods whatsoever and no issues with it. Best thing before you change to the 1.6 cr is go for a drive in one. I have tried Rapid and was quite disappointed with the interior and space, as I am getting to a new job that includes company car the Octavia is to be handled by the wife and she is not comfortable parking it and would prefer a smaller one - so far have convinced her that besides the economical sense of keeping this car (only 30.000kms on the clock and no issues, good space for the upcoming family addition) she will only use it on weekends every once in a while (we work quite close to one another and have similar entry/exit times so do the commute together). So far am winning that one, only thing she does not fight me (too much) is on the cars (and emphatic "too much" there....).

 

We had one Rapid for a weekend with the same engine as the Octavia and another for another weekend with a 1.2 petrol with the same hp(105) and I have to say I prefer the petrol. a lot more fun round the tight mountain passes here - but disappointing interior and you will feel like you are downgrading too much. I will still keep my Octavia 1.6cr for a very long time (specially now getting the company car).