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Just posted a review of the Fabia vRS

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I think that's a really good and objective review Chris, and exactly why I and many others have the vRS in the first place. :thumbup::D

It's good to know your students like it too - other driving instructors have had to sell their vrs due to badge snobbery :(

I think that's a really good and objective review Chris' date=' and exactly why I and many others have the vRS in the first place. :thumbup::D

It's good to know your students like it too - other driving instructors have had to sell their vrs due to badge snobbery :([/quote']

glad your still loving it Chris! I questioned my pupils before I bought the vRS, and all of the younger ones don't know about the "old" opinion of skodas... they just say "is that the one that beat the mini cooper round the track?" so seems to me the snobbery has gone!

if you know anythin about cars then the badge shouldnt come into it. unless your a git.

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One of my pupils stopped taking lessons because I changed to a Skoda :shakecan: . The swear filter wont allow the word that springs to mind, but in view of the fact that he claimed peer pressure as the issue (and when referred back to the school, would also not have lessons with a woman instructor for the same reason) I think runt works well and rymes with the word that more accurately describes him. All other pupils are seroiusly impressed. It is not just the drivig of it though. For some reason that I cannot fathom, all of the pupils find the car easier to place accurately in manouvres as well :confused: First guy to take his test in it passed :) but with a comment (but not driving fault) to the rather rapid rate of progress being made from a sideroad onto a dual carriageway.

I have been out investigating ;) the handling in the wet yesterday. I am sure that more feel is coming to the front end as the mileage goes up. I have found that the grip is generally very high and the car can be trail braked just a little to get the back swinging in cooperation with the front. When you push this hard, there is some information coming through the steering, but you still hear the breakaway starting before you feel it. I will give it some more miles yet and keep "practicing".

Chris

Hi

One of my pupils stopped taking lessons because I changed to a Skoda :shakecan: . The swear filter wont allow the word that springs to mind' date=' but in view of the fact that he claimed peer pressure as the issue (and when referred back to the school, would also not have lessons with a woman instructor for the same reason) I think runt works well and rymes with the word that more accurately describes him. All other pupils are seroiusly impressed. It is not just the drivig of it though. For some reason that I cannot fathom, all of the pupils find the car easier to place accurately in manouvres as well :confused: First guy to take his test in it passed :) but with a comment (but not driving fault) to the rather rapid rate of progress being made from a sideroad onto a dual carriageway.

I have been out investigating ;) the handling in the wet yesterday. I am sure that more feel is coming to the front end as the mileage goes up. I have found that the grip is generally very high and the car can be trail braked just a little to get the back swinging in cooperation with the front. When you push this hard, there is some information coming through the steering, but you still hear the breakaway starting before you feel it. I will give it some more miles yet and keep "practicing".

Chris[/quote']

:rofl: at the ryming slang!

I've never got the back to step out, seems more set up to understeer to me (maybe your rear tyres need a few more miles yet, they don't bed in as quick as the front....) unless you're braking in the corner, and shifting the weight deliberatly! (brave man!) this is in comparison to my last car (C2 GT) this had a REALLY sharp turn-in, set up that way apparently, so this was very easy to step the back out, just lift off when cornering hard! that car was very twitchy when pushing, fabia seems safer...... good to find another instructor with a passion for driving as I have! :thumbup:

The back end goes if you're going like a loon and brake hard on a bend! Ultrabad driving to manage it though :thumbup:

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:rofl: at the ryming slang!

I've never got the back to step out' date=' seems more set up to understeer to me (maybe your rear tyres need a few more miles yet, they don't bed in as quick as the front....) unless you're braking in the corner, and shifting the weight deliberatly! (brave man!) this is in comparison to my last car (C2 GT) this had a REALLY sharp turn-in, set up that way apparently, so this was very easy to step the back out, just lift off when cornering hard! that car was very twitchy when pushing, fabia seems safer...... good to find another instructor with a passion for driving as I have! :thumbup:[/quote']

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I started trying a bit of lift off oversteer mid corner to tighten the line, which kind of works OK, but still leaves the nose pushing wide a little. So next move on a couple of my favourite wet (and empty) roundabouts was to get the weight transfer by staying on the brakes just that bit later / deeper into the turn in. The weight transfers nicely to the front outside tyre, but the lack of rebound damping allows it to unload again really quickly, so I have to get on the gas quickly but gently to hold the attitude. Last try was to tug the wheel into the apex on trailing throttle. This unsettles the back a little bit and gets the rear outside tyre working nicely. A little gas to hold it (not too much or its back to understeer) and all is well, so this would appear to be the preferred method. I think it is more effective than the trail braking because it loads the front suspension outside wheel less and thus avoids the rebound (and the need for opposite lock if overcooked) better.

I wonder how folks on standard dampers with harder springs fair? Understeer city?

Chris

Great review Chris. Well written and informative. A salesmam's dream !!

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