Monte Carlo to VRS

[paulthebigp]

So i have a 2012 1.2tsi 105 Monty and looking to switch to 2012 fabia VRs !

Is there anythin problems or anything i should be looking out for with the vrs ?

Thanks

[MillsyVRS]

Straight away people will say the oil usage.

My car does use a bit, but I love the car enough that it doesn't bother me. Do a bit of research into the cars history, and if it's looking good, go ahead and get it.

There's stories of people's engines failing, but also lots of stories where people have nothing but good things to say about the car. Do your research and don't let the bad stuff put you off straight away.

[Ootohere]

Try to buy one with the remainder of a Skoda Manufacturers Warranty,

or a very good Warranty.

Check the Warranty History and Service History with Skoda UK Customer Services.

Ask if the engine has been replaced or require Oil Consumption Test, Breather Pipe & Valve Update.

& does it have a Skoda Dealers Service History or someone elses.

*Having had a new engine is not a negative, you can then use that to get a better price on the car.*

 

When was the 2012 vRS Built, before September or after?

How many miles has it done?

Edited 6 July, 2015 by goneoffSKi

[paulthebigp]

So its not off a skoda garage its off a local garage with 6months warrenty from them. Has 30,000km on the clock and has 2 previous owners. Going to go to a skoda garage and chat to a technician with the reg and they should be able to tell before or after september ..... why is this ?

[Ootohere]

You want to know which engine it has,  first edition CAVE, 

last 1/4 2012 & 2013 CTHE

(You could have a CAVE Engine car that was first registered after September 2012)

There is a sticker at the bottom of the drivers door pillar says,  CAVE  or CTHE

 

Newer engine has a Different Engine Management & ECU, and will not have been re-mapped

by previous owners, so if you want a Valid Warranty or goodwill incase of a claim, best not buy one that was remapped,

if you want to do a remap, then do not go for a CTHE,  but then you do not really need a Re-Map with them.

 

PS

If you know the Registration, then check on the DVLA Site and see when the car was First Registered,

& you could post it here, 

and see if any Briskoda Member is a previous owner.

Edited 6 July, 2015 by goneoffSKi

[paulthebigp]

Whats the difference between the 2 engines ? Less fuel consumption ?

[Ootohere]

The revised engine was introduced because of the number of the first engines failing from going in the Seat Ibiza Twinchargers in 2009.

Obviously not all went wrong, but a fair few of the 1,800 in Fabia vRS 2010-2012 did. 

& in the Seat, VW & Audi.

 

The revised engine was fitted to the Fabia late 2012 and the 2013 Seat Ibiza Cupra 2013.

Different Engine Parts and Engine Management.

The number of the revised engines with issues are a lot less, but there still are some, and some that members had problems with, 

and some have had replacement engines as well.

 

http://revotechnik.com/support/technical/14tsi-twincharger-engine-issues

[pearce_jj]

IIRC the CTHE has a number of different internals (pistons etc), better software that doesn't cause bore-wash in certain conditions that has been attributed to the cause of some of the oil consumption related failures in the CAVE. As said the ECU is somehow locked and so far none of the tuners have gotten around it, which alone IMO makes it a better buy second-hand.

 

It also drives differently, coming on strongly 5-7k; where the CAVE fades at the top, the CTHE pulls right to the line. According to all the other VAG stable with it, it has better acceleration and lower emissions, unfortunately we (Skoda drivers) don't get the ££ tax benefit of the emissions as Skoda never updated the DVLA.

 

Also a random aside but the VRS cannot have a tow-bar - it has no DVLA type approval for it for some random reason.

[wesleyuk]

i would not buy one from non skoda dealership due the warranty. 

[Ootohere]

Buying a 'Skoda Approved Used Car'  is nothing special other than it should have a 12 month Warranty, 

but you are not likely to find many 'Skoda Approved 2012 vRS Now'.

If you do buy one, there is no guarantee that the car has even had a Service done before delivery, unless one was due, 

it will have been Inspected, well it should have been.

Funnily some buy Skoda Approved Used Cars only to find that Service Campaign Work can still be outstanding.

 

If you buy a Used Skoda from a Trader, Independent Dealership or even privately with the Original Manufacturers Warranty Running and a Service History to the Manufacturers Schedule / Guidelines to meet the T&C's in the Manufacturers Warranty 

you should be able to purchase a 'Skoda Approved Extended Warranty' which is a Car Care Ltd Product.

2 Years extended will be better value than for 1 year.

 

Plenty good used cars out there, bargains to be had in CAVE & CTHE, 

but it is a case of Buyer Beware, do your homework on the cars history.

 

There are members here that have Traded in Cars recently or have one for sale and can point you towards good ones & possible bargains.

Edited 7 July, 2015 by goneoffSKi

[Grantwebster]

Whats the difference between the 2 engines ? Less fuel consumption ?

Are you running a hid kit

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[paulthebigp]

Ye man have a hid kit on me lights n fogs too