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Now I expect it is just me, but why does my engine sound different now the car has done 7500 miles? 

 

When I say sound different, what I mean is when driving at 55-60MPH the engine seems to sound slightly noisier than it did a while ago.. not real noisy, but sounds slightly louder as if it needs to change up gear, even though the revs are normal, around 1700-1800 rpm....

 

It has not just started it has been like it a while :(

 

Also, I think I know the answer to this, whilst sitting at the traffic lights STOP/START activated after a minute or so the engine started on its own, what would cause that? I am certain I did not lift my foot off the brake... so could it be the AC was needed to cool the car a bit inside? or maybe the battery needed a boost?

 

Stu 

Hullo,

On point one, i couldn't say I've never been fortunate enough to have such a young motor. But I'd imagine it's just bedding in.

On point 2 having driven fords/vauxhalls with stop/start this isn't unusual behaviour and I think it's to prevent battery drain

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Lol... hate modern cars, those were the day's when I could take my old Ford Cortina to bits ... nothing fancy... 

 

That was what I thought (ref point 1) my old Exeo did seem to change sound... I did suspect it may be down to either the AC needing to work or the battery needed a boost... It does say in the manual that it can do this, but when it happens for the first time it takes you by surprise Lol

 

Also, I think I know the answer to this, whilst sitting at the traffic lights STOP/START activated after a minute or so the engine started on its own, what would cause that? I am certain I did not lift my foot off the brake... so could it be the AC was needed to cool the car a bit inside? or maybe the battery needed a boost?

 

Stu 

Battery is powerful enough. It`s the AC.

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I have a feeling it could be the AC, although it is 18 degrees here and the AC is set to 18 then the inside would be slightly higher and it did go a little warmer inside just before it restarted... 

No.

When starstop system restarts on his own, the capacitor needs energy. The ac is anyway in a special mode when you stops.

This is absolutely normal behaviour.

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In 12 months it's the first time it has done this .. Lol just surprised me :)

 

So it was just the battery needing a boost...

In 12 months it's the first time it has done this .. Lol just surprised me :)

 

So it was just the battery needing a boost...

 

Mine 1.4 tsi has stop start and manual air con and I can confirm that the air con doesn't affect the stop start. When I was in Germany earlier this month with temps of 39 deg C when the stop start kicked in  (or off!!) the air con stopped cooling. I restarted by putting my clutch down to avoid cooking!

 

When I was sat in the ferry queue I also experienced the engine restarting itself after a while - presumably because of the DRL's being on .

The stop / start system is quite a complicated process with a varying number of influences...

 

Conditions for the automatic engine shut down (stop phase)

› The gearshift lever is in Neutral.

› The clutch pedal is not depressed.

› The driver has fastened the seat belt.

› The driver's door is closed.

› The bonnet is closed.

› The vehicle is at a standstill.

› The engine is at operating temperature.

› The charge state of the vehicle battery is sufficient.

› The stationary vehicle is not on a steep slope or a steep downhill section.

› The engine speed is less than 1200 1/min.

› The temperature of the vehicle battery is not too low or too high.

› There is sufficient pressure in the braking system.

› The difference between the outdoor- and the set temperature in the interior is

not too great.

› The vehicle speed since the last time the engine was switched off was greater

than 3 km/h.

› The front wheels are not turned excessively (the steering angle is less than 3/4

of a steering wheel revolution).

 

Conditions for an automatic restart (start phase)

› The clutch is depressed.

› The max./min. temperature is set.

› The Defrost function for the windshield is switched on.

› A high blower stage has been selected.

› The START STOP button is pressed.

 

Conditions for an automatic restart without driver intervention

› The vehicle moves at a speed of more than 3 km/h.

› The difference between the outdoor- and the set temperature in the interior is

too great.

› The charge state of the vehicle battery is not sufficient.

› There is insufficient pressure in the braking system.

Stuart, I have the same issues. Engine sounds louder but not bothered much by it, I assumed it was starting to loosen up. The engine does restart, I have noticed this when it is on a short journey, the power need to start the car from cold is, so I have been led to believe is quite high, plus lights on, heater on etc, the alternator kicks I power it all.

The stop / start system is quite a complicated process with a varying number of influences...

 

Conditions for the automatic engine shut down (stop phase)

› The gearshift lever is in Neutral.

› The clutch pedal is not depressed.

› The driver has fastened the seat belt.

› The driver's door is closed.

› The bonnet is closed.

› The vehicle is at a standstill.

› The engine is at operating temperature.

› The charge state of the vehicle battery is sufficient.

› The stationary vehicle is not on a steep slope or a steep downhill section.

› The engine speed is less than 1200 1/min.

› The temperature of the vehicle battery is not too low or too high.

› There is sufficient pressure in the braking system.

› The difference between the outdoor- and the set temperature in the interior is

not too great.

› The vehicle speed since the last time the engine was switched off was greater

than 3 km/h.

› The front wheels are not turned excessively (the steering angle is less than 3/4

of a steering wheel revolution).

 

Conditions for an automatic restart (start phase)

› The clutch is depressed.

› The max./min. temperature is set.

› The Defrost function for the windshield is switched on.

› A high blower stage has been selected.

› The START STOP button is pressed.

 

Conditions for an automatic restart without driver intervention

› The vehicle moves at a speed of more than 3 km/h.

› The difference between the outdoor- and the set temperature in the interior is

too great.

› The charge state of the vehicle battery is not sufficient.

› There is insufficient pressure in the braking system.

 

 

Great answer thanks,

 

My engine probably didn't re start when stood at lights on a very hot day as you don't set an interior temperature on manual air con

"› The difference between the outdoor- and the set temperature in the interior is too great."

 

When the car restarted after being sat in a very long ferry queue it was probably "the charge state of the vehicle battery is not sufficient" - The car had numerous restarts and had sat with the DRL on for some time (not LED)

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The stop / start system is quite a complicated process with a varying number of influences...

 

Conditions for the automatic engine shut down (stop phase)

› The gearshift lever is in Neutral.

› The clutch pedal is not depressed.

› The driver has fastened the seat belt.

› The driver's door is closed.

› The bonnet is closed.

› The vehicle is at a standstill.

› The engine is at operating temperature.

› The charge state of the vehicle battery is sufficient.

› The stationary vehicle is not on a steep slope or a steep downhill section.

› The engine speed is less than 1200 1/min.

› The temperature of the vehicle battery is not too low or too high.

› There is sufficient pressure in the braking system.

› The difference between the outdoor- and the set temperature in the interior is

not too great.

› The vehicle speed since the last time the engine was switched off was greater

than 3 km/h.

› The front wheels are not turned excessively (the steering angle is less than 3/4

of a steering wheel revolution).

 

Conditions for an automatic restart (start phase)

› The clutch is depressed.

› The max./min. temperature is set.

› The Defrost function for the windshield is switched on.

› A high blower stage has been selected.

› The START STOP button is pressed.

 

Conditions for an automatic restart without driver intervention

› The vehicle moves at a speed of more than 3 km/h.

› The difference between the outdoor- and the set temperature in the interior is

too great.

› The charge state of the vehicle battery is not sufficient.

› There is insufficient pressure in the braking system.

 

It does sort of contradict itself really ... 

 

Conditions for the automatic engine shut down (stop phase)

› The charge state of the vehicle battery is sufficient.

 

Conditions for an automatic restart without driver intervention

› The charge state of the vehicle battery is not sufficient.

 

Now mine stopped OK then about 30 seconds later restarted... Which is why I suspected the internal temp was too warm so the AC was needed .. 

 

Stuart, I have the same issues. Engine sounds louder but not bothered much by it, I assumed it was starting to loosen up. The engine does restart, I have noticed this when it is on a short journey, the power need to start the car from cold is, so I have been led to believe is quite high, plus lights on, heater on etc, the alternator kicks I power it all.

 

I would not say it bothers me, if I remember right my Exeo did the same thing, it is just slightly noisier now around the 1500-2000 RPM range just as if it want another gear..

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