With the numerous 'discussions' about fun hatch diesels,people only ever talk about the Seats,golfs,fabia etc. and 130 and 160 bhp outputs

Surely a second hand one of these 4 wd must be a cracking buy.Why does no one ever talk about them? Must be the same engine as the Fabia but with quattro

They are great cars but very rare, If you can get one your lucky

I think predominantly the cost is rediculous.

A colleague has a 2.0TDI (140bhp) A3 with Sportline pack, but its underwhelming to drive compared to the Fabia vRS, and at

I think they are expensive, slow, uneconomical and excessively boring.

If you have ever driven a slow Quattro you will realise it is no fun. I suppose you could chuck lots of money at it and have good brakes / suspension / wheel tyre and 200hp / 300 lb/ft and it will be ok to drive, nice and grippy etc....... but think of the

I use an a3 2.0tdi regularly at work and had the opportunity to do a really long run from the midlands to sussex recently - As Tom says they are completely bland to drive.

I'm sure the s3 (& forthcoming RS3) are a hoot though!