Well - that's my "personal" opinion and last opinion on this topic !

Id back up VRSMule i would say that having the 5w-30 that isnt 507.00 badged is not going to cause the dpf issues. If you are burning oil at a rate that would any low ash oil will eventually saturate the dpf causing damage. Under normal circumstancea any c3 (low ash) rated oil of the 5w-30 fully synth variety will be ok for most if not all diesels with dpfs that want 5w-30 oil to be used.

When 5 litres of genuine VAG oil to the correct VW 507.00 spec (Quantum / Castrol) can be had for £23 delivered to your door I wouldn't bother looking elsewhere.

 

From the Audi main dealer in Bristol...

 

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Thanks everyone for all your input, I firmly believe now, that 'no' I'm not in trouble, in saying that... I'm going to replace oil with 507 VW(VAG Group)5W/30.. Only for piece of mind, my last car B5.5 Passat 'demanded' said similar VAG oil, I change oil regularly and on numerous occasions over the years it just got any old 5W/30, and on some occasions only semi synthetic... Anyway that can on same engine and same gearbox lasted 480,000 mls and probably would have made 500,000 mls but for 1 injector issue, so I was ready for a change..... Only have the Octavia 2 months so just keeping things right. Thank You again

Thanks everyone for all your input, I firmly believe now, that 'no' I'm not in trouble, in saying that... I'm going to replace oil with 507 VW(VAG Group)5W/30.. Only for piece of mind, my last car B5.5 Passat 'demanded' said similar VAG oil, I change oil regularly and on numerous occasions over the years it just got any old 5W/30, and on some occasions only semi synthetic... Anyway that can on same engine and same gearbox lasted 480,000 mls and probably would have made 500,000 mls but for 1 injector issue, so I was ready for a change..... Only have the Octavia 2 months so just keeping things right. Thank You again

Your doing the right thing. just consider the other oil as a nice engine flush 

my old Octavia 2006 with first DPF on market has written in manual VW502, 505...years later oil marketing pushed long life oils VW505 and VW507...so many specification so little difference. Now, I use VW505.00/01 5W-40 and don't bother. Paradox is low sulphur is good for DPF but kills engine because it is main anti-wear additive in racing oils

 

moronic arguments about Ford and VW is similar...forget...it is oversensitive PD engines, hydro valves and DPF that requires certain additives to work optimally.

 

unless, is written on oil VW spec...flush it and get VW spec oil unless you love experiments with engine as I do

Thanks everyone for all your input, I firmly believe now, that 'no' I'm not in trouble, in saying that... I'm going to replace oil with 507 VW(VAG Group)5W/30.. Only for piece of mind, my last car B5.5 Passat 'demanded' said similar VAG oil, I change oil regularly and on numerous occasions over the years it just got any old 5W/30, and on some occasions only semi synthetic... Anyway that can on same engine and same gearbox lasted 480,000 mls and probably would have made 500,000 mls but for 1 injector issue, so I was ready for a change..... Only have the Octavia 2 months so just keeping things right. Thank You again

it doesn't matter what oil you use because they are all rubbish...cheap, OEM or premium.

 

just get correct VAG spec and change it every 8000km with all filters (except fuel one) or 5000km if driving only short distance.

 

I have many samples form oil lab and there is no difference in oils. They are all rubbish with low viscosity and they wear engine. German Skoda dealers uses/used Shell Helix that is worst rubbish of all. 11k in engine and your engine is dead in no time.

my old Octavia 2006 with first DPF on market has written in manual VW502, 505...years later oil marketing pushed long life oils VW505 and VW507...so many specification so little difference. Now, I use VW505.00/01 5W-40 and don't bother. Paradox is low sulphur is good for DPF but kills engine because it is main anti-wear additive in racing oils

moronic arguments about Ford and VW is similar...forget...it is oversensitive PD engines, hydro valves and DPF that requires certain additives to work optimally.

unless, is written on oil VW spec...flush it and get VW spec oil unless you love experiments with engine as I do

502.00 is for a petrol engine and 505.00 is pre PD spec. Good to see Skoda are as crap at handbooks in other countries as well as the UK.

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502.00 is for a petrol engine and 505.00 is pre PD spec. Good to see Skoda are as crap at handbooks in other countries as well as the UK.

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yep, when I saw I just laughed. Sadly, it is English manual from German car :-D

yep, when I saw I just laughed. Sadly, it is English manual from German car :-D

The handbook for my old mkI made almost no sense. It had a whole section about the radin.

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is if just me that finds the entire situation over oli specs reaching ludicrous levels ....

Whatever happened to the choice being simply do I use 20/50/ or 15/40 then maybe mineral, semi synthetic or fully synthetic oil but now you've a 5/30 oil that comes in half a dozen different flavours depending on what make of car you drive with a separate oil for Fords, Vauxhalls, VAG, Renault/Citroen/Peugeot et all .... are these oils really and truly all different specs if they say they're low ash and suitable for a DPF surely if you're changing it every 10,000 miles maximum they'd all be fine.

I guess because all manufacturers make their engines differently with differing requirements. Just like the PD requires special oil for PD engines due to the increased wear on the cam because of the design of the unit injectors.

is if just me that finds the entire situation over oli specs reaching ludicrous levels ....

Whatever happened to the choice being simply do I use 20/50/ or 15/40 then maybe mineral, semi synthetic or fully synthetic oil but now you've a 5/30 oil that comes in half a dozen different flavours depending on what make of car you drive with a separate oil for Fords, Vauxhalls, VAG, Renault/Citroen/Peugeot et all .... are these oils really and truly all different specs if they say they're low ash and suitable for a DPF surely if you're changing it every 10,000 miles maximum they'd all be fine.

It's not the 1970s, things have got a lot more complicated.

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my old Octavia 2006 with first DPF on market has written in manual VW502, 505...years later oil marketing pushed long life oils VW505 and VW507...so many specification so little difference. Now, I use VW505.00/01 5W-40 and don't bother. Paradox is low sulphur is good for DPF but kills engine because it is main anti-wear additive in racing oils

 

What engine code do you have?

 

The 2.0 PD140 engine available here in the UK did not have a DPF fitted. Was it different in Austria?

 

The only PD engines with DPF's here are fitted to the 4x4, Scout (PD140) and vRS (PD170).

I believe the different specs for different manufacturers boils down to whatever deal the car manufacturers strike up with the oil company, if you won't sell me your oil cheap I will swap to a different supplier and allow them to put "the new VW spec" on their product and freeze you out of the market.

The only other factor is an oil company that doesn't supply oem, Let's say Mobil1 produces oil to VW spec and then pays vw an annual premium to use the "meets VW 507"

I think castrol used to supply VW, but they fell out and VW switched to shell. castrol lost sales to VW manufacturing plants and all official dealers. Quite a loss of trade.

What engine code do you have?

 

The 2.0 PD140 engine available here in the UK did not have a DPF fitted. Was it different in Austria?

 

The only PD engines with DPF's here are fitted to the 4x4, Scout (PD140) and vRS (PD170).

Engine code BMM and all were fitted with DPF since 10/2005. At least in central Europe.

 

UK is a cradle of motorsport and you guys don't bother about emissions too much. During my life in UK, I noticed that anything is possible with car - Roll cages, heavy engine upgrades, brakes and so on. Nobody cares but try to drive in Germany or Austria with such a car...if caught by police, be ready to pay 5000€ fine and walking home without car :-D

 

Austria allows 30% of modifications but removing emission reduction systems will cost you dearly. Czech Republic = no modifications.

 

I didn't live in other countries but there is ever increasing number of morons who believe smoking car = high performance cars. It is only matter of time until we'll be forced to use electric cars thanks to tuners.

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I believe the different specs for different manufacturers boils down to whatever deal the car manufacturers strike up with the oil company, if you won't sell me your oil cheap I will swap to a different supplier and allow them to put "the new VW spec" on their product and freeze you out of the market.

The only other factor is an oil company that doesn't supply oem, Let's say Mobil1 produces oil to VW spec and then pays vw an annual premium to use the "meets VW 507"

I think castrol used to supply VW, but they fell out and VW switched to shell. castrol lost sales to VW manufacturing plants and all official dealers. Quite a loss of trade.

manufacturers recommend ;-) Services pick the cheapest pish on market as you correctly noticed. There is little or better say no difference between cheap and premium oils. Change them at 8k, max at 10k km and you can use frying oil :-D I believe long-life oil might last 15-30k km if you drive only 1000+ km trips. BUT while engine oil might not degrade, oil filters and air filters are full of rubbish in no time. LONG LIFE is cunning marketing words for idiots who believe in super-trooper, mumbo-jumbo universal things, which last forever and you don't need to do any maintenance at all.

 

UK uses Fuchs I believe. DE, CZ, AT uses Shell.

 

That's why my Octavia, imported from Germany, was slowly dying on long life pish from Shell. Oil lab recommended max 5k on such an oil, 2k if driven on short trips.

 

as was already said PD and PPD systems require extra soft touch. That's why VW spec oils.

manufacturers recommend ;-) Services pick the cheapest pish on market as you correctly noticed. There is little or better say no difference between cheap and premium oils. Change them at 8k, max at 10k km and you can use frying oil :-D I believe long-life oil might last 15-30k km if you drive only 1000+ km trips. BUT while engine oil might not degrade, oil filters and air filters are full of rubbish in no time. LONG LIFE is cunning marketing words for idiots who believe in super-trooper, mumbo-jumbo universal things, which last forever and you don't need to do any maintenance at all.

UK uses Fuchs I believe. DE, CZ, AT uses Shell.

That's why my Octavia, imported from Germany, was slowly dying on long life pish from Shell. Oil lab recommended max 5k on such an oil, 2k if driven on short trips.

as was already said PD and PPD systems require extra soft touch. That's why VW spec oils.

Long life = money saving for the fleet market, no more, no less. It is for companies that will have a car for 3 years and then not care what happens.

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