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Windscreen icing over, on the inside.

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Didn't know where else to post this but this morning i had to scrap the ice from my windscreen and noticed that the inside was a bit iced over as well. I managed to wipe it away with a bit of tissue but it left the water and remaining bits to melt down my windscreen as i was coming into work.

Does this mean i have a leak or hole someone or did it only happen because it was very cold?

Never had it happen before.

Doesn't sound right. Worth checking the carpets (pull them up) for dampness and also that the rear washer is working, to rule out those as possible causes :D

Chris

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Cheers. I'll check them out later after i've left work.

Did you have the AC on before parking up the night before?

Exactely the same thing happened to me this morning.

my electric windows don't work anymore and so they are not making a complete seal up to the hood, leaving my car vulnerable to rain etc.

Could it be a bad seal somewhere for you?

It can happen without anything sinister going on. Think about it:

You get in the car after scraping the screen, then start breathing damp air into the atmosphere in the car. This hits the screen, and condenses. If the glass is below zero, it will freeze on the inside. I always get this if I use de-icer (on the outside!)

Phil

I've started to have this problem after my car has been left in the work car park for a few days!

When I use it everyday, it doesn't seem to be a problem though

Same happened to ours AGAIN this morning

Really fed up with it, always misted up inside this weather and takes ages to clear.

Rang the dealer who said it definitely should not happen so its booked in for Monday.

Cant find any trace of a leak anywhere and the carpets are bone dry.

This was iced up inside on entering the car so its not beathing on it thats done it.

had this frequently on various models of cars and vans, (post office) if u drive a distance the night before with the heater on then the amount of moisture the (warm) air can hold is quite high, as the temp drops this water turns from vapour to liquid and condenses on the coldest surface ie glass, will then freeze if cold enough. Before double glazing (when i was a lad and we had real winters) we used to get the same on the bedroom windows - delightfull jack frost patterns. Have found that by leaving window open for last mile of last journey and loosing hot air in car vastly reduces this but is it worth it?

Another thing, is to make sure that the recirc on the heater is set to off, so you've got fresh air coming in from the outside.

Otherwise, if you've got a lot of condensation/moisture inside the cabin, you're not going to get rid off it.

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Thanks for all the info guys. I didn't use the air con the night before and the ice was on the inside before i opened the door, noticed it as i was scraping the window. I might have to try letting the hot air out because i drive home with just the hot air blasting onto the windows, so maybe a change of air direction or something is called for.

Haven't been out to check carpets yet as it's absolutely p-ing down, so will check in the morning before i go out.

I noticed on Friday as well, that i had a patch of mist right in my field of vision as i was about to go back out after about 2 hours at home. No matter how much air i blasted up the windscreen, it wouldn't shift and i'd had the engine running for about 10 minutes, so i had to wipe it off.

i check after ive let the car settle for 10 mins and see if it has misted up in side. If so i wipe windows with a cloth .:thumbup:

One tip while scraping the car.

Don't use a De-icer.

Just scrape.

Even if you put the heater/blower/AC on to demist, be prepared for a surprise.

Next frosty morning, don't de-ice just scrape. It shouldn't mist up much on the inside. Next time after that, try de-icer as well. The inside of the screen will mist before you even open the door.

There will always be some moisture in the car as the inside may well go below the due point temps, and the car isn't truly airtight.

Adding alcohol to the screen surface (de-icer) lowers the temps of the glass and causes the warmer damp air inside the car to fog the glass like a cold mirror in a bathroom.

Did notice some condensation (not frozen) on the inside when the first signs of winter approached this year. Noticed that if I turned the air direction to screen/feet, temp at 20-22, AC and recirc off, a couple of minutes before the end of the journey and left them at that setting, I didn't get anything on the inside of the screen. And that's been the same result so far for the frosts so far this year.

Might be worth a go?

Steve

hhhmmmm, I now only drive mine once a week due to company car, but still never have any of these problems..... hope you all get a satifactory solution :)

It would seem you've had plenty of problems with your Focus though, to make up for it! ;)

Steve

It would seem you've had plenty of problems with your Focus though' date=' to make up for it! ;)

Steve[/quote']

yeah, thats a bag of bloody spanners covered in monkey ****! (at least it has a heated front screen) however, unbeleivably I get another new one tomorrow! three of them in three months, we are supposed to keep them six months! they have only managed to last one month so far, welcome to the disposable car!

*sharky curses the "supposed" car of the year... it's ugly too...... :thumbdwn:

edit: ford lie too... brochue (I was checking it out when the 4 week old one was in the garage broken) says it has a leather steering wheel... this simply isnt true.... the vRS has a leather wheel, the focus is either plastic, or leather supplied by a crocodile......

Such a pity - I had a yr2000 Focus before the Fabia and loved it, no probs during ownership either :)

I can't only presume you've been amazingly unlucky, but I agree wholeheartedly with the ugliness opinion - it's one car shape that hasn't grown on me since its launch...

Steve

Such a pity - I had a yr2000 Focus before the Fabia and loved it' date=' no probs during ownership either :)

I can't only presume you've been amazingly unlucky, but I agree wholeheartedly with the ugliness opinion - it's one car shape that hasn't grown on me since its launch...

Steve[/quote']

wierdly enough my friend has a 'w' reg 1.8, and has had it for two years, and it's never gone wrong! maybe just the new one is crap ;)

You may not be that wide of the mark actually. I was on the Focus Owners club forum for a number of years, my duration of ownership in fact, and don't remember hearing about troubles on your scale with the 'old' Focus. Yeah, there were people with intermittant faults now and again, niggles, sweaks/rattles but nothing more than the usual that you 'expect' from any model.

Steve

Its hard to prevent a bit of condensation or frost inside the car, especially when its cold. Having damp inside the car - either a leak or recently shampooing inside or if the air conditioning or air recirculation have been on it will make it more likely to happen.

If it gets bad - what I done recently was use a small air dehumidifier inside the car overnight. If theres damp in there - these things will suck it all out of the air and put it into a tub for you. Won't stop it coming back if theres a problem, but its a good start. Good luck with the dealers, let us know how you got on - if they found anything etc.

Cheers

Ross

If it gets bad - what I done recently was use a small air dehumidifier inside the car overnight. If theres damp in there - these things will suck it all out of the air and put it into a tub for you. Won't stop it coming back if theres a problem' date=' but its a good start. Good luck with the dealers, let us know how you got on - if they found anything etc.

Cheers

Ross[/quote']

I quite like the idea of using one of these. Do these need power? i.e. cigarette lighter connector? Where can I get one?

Where can I get one?

I had one in the house anyway - the one I used runs on 12volts through an adaptor that plugs into the mains. The power cable was thin after the adaptor so just run it through the window, shut the window to seal any gaps (the dehumidifier wont work right if air can easily flow in / out the car.

Its probably not worth buying one specifically for the car, unless you can get cheap car ones? If you do get one though - there pretty good in the house too - you'd be amazed how much water they suck out the air, even in a house without a damp problem. My mum uses it to dry the washing inside :rofl: - it actually (apparently) speeds up the whole drying process by about 3x!! :thumbup:

For a decent one its going to be over

I sporadically apply Rainex to the windscreen so the rain bobbles off with speed.

I've recently bought some Rainex anti-fog stuff for the inside - anyone used that?

Rainex anti-fog stuff for the inside - anyone used that?

Rain-X on the outside is fantastic stuff, still frosts up in the morning but its a different type of fluffy frost that wipes off more easily.

The antifog one for the inside works well too but I find that its effects wear off pretty quick and seem to cause the windscreen to come back worse than it was for fogging up, usually patchy too...unless you apply it every week or so. If your happy applying it a lot then its all good!

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