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My wipers stopped working or have a mind of their own

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Hello.

 

I have an issue about my wipers. This one day they started to work with full speed for few wipes although the wiper switch was off. So I switched it on an off and sprayed some windshield washer fluid and it stopped acting unusual.

 

The next day they stopped working. Nothing happened no matter what i did with the switch. So I checked the fuse. Fuse OK.

 

I went to the dealer (left the car there) where they diagnosed a motor failure.

 

The day I picked it at the dealer the unusual routine (few full speed wipes although the wiper switch was off) happened again. Again... everything seemed OK until the next day when they refused to wipe.

 

I don't know but it just doesn't seem right to me that the motor is the problem.

So if anyone has an idea or had or heard about this wipers issue, please share :)

 

Cheers

G

I would probably look at the wiper stalk next.

 

How many miles are on the car?

+1, the wiper switch is the likely cause.

 

I hope you have been back to the dealer for a refund on the unnecessary wiper motor replacement.

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About 150 kkm on the clock.

 

Oh... they haven't replaced the motor at the dealer. I just wanted them to check and tell me what's wrong.

 

The wiper stalk? Well that's another thing to check. That's probably done with another/working switch?

 

Cheers

G

Edited by giggs

I had this exact problem on mine , I pulled the motor out cleaned all electric connections and greased the joints up and it sorted it no problems since :)

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Well that's nice to hear!

 

Did you have to open the motor?

By electric connections you mean the pins on the connector?

Any detailed description (if you think is needed) is welcome!

 

Thank you for the answer!

 

P.S. found this switch meanwhile. Not that expensive :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Column-Window-Wiper-Switch-Fits-AUDI-SEAT-Altea-SKODA-Octavia-VW-Golf-Mk-V-2003-/321832684000?hash=item4aeeb909e0:g:xKAAAOSw3ydVzdoS&vxp=mtr

 

Cheers

G

Edited by giggs

I once rebuilt the switch part of the stalk on a high mileage Ibiza that I sold to a friend. The grease on the contacts had become conductive due to the metallic wear particles within it that would cause the rear wiper to operate sporadically.

 

a quick clean and some fresh grease sorted it out.

 

For the price of them you might as well try a new one or take a punt at having a look inside it and see what the problem is

Edited by SuperbTWM

Was just the pins on the plug and connector, greased all the joints and moved the motor by hand back and forth. Was a bit fiddly to get motor in and out however it took longer to get wiper arms off first ! Should take u max hour to strip remove and replace

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Hello. A minor update.

 

I tried to reach the motor connector to check the pins, but I failed to remove wiper arms. I sprayed WD40 half an hour earlier but no luck. I will visit a friend of mine to try with the puller.

 

But I managed to squeeze a hand under the windscreen trim and disconected the plug. Pins seemed OK. After i reconnected the plug, I tried again, but no luck.

 

So the plan is to keep looking for a used motor replacement, visit a friend with a multi(volt)meter and diagnostic tool.

 

Cheers

G

  • 2 weeks later...
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So... Went to a friend of mine on thursday. We removed the wiper blades, removed the plastic just under the windscreen to get a close look at the motor and to check the motor part number. We removed the connector to check the pins and they seemed okay. We even got a hold on three wiper motors from VAG to check and neither of them worked.

We disconnected the bonnet switch btw so the computer thought the bonnet was closed while we were testing other motors.

 

So no luck for now, but got the phone number of a good auto eletrician.

If your set on trying to fix it yourself, take the wiper stalk off and check the pins with a multimeter as you go through each of the positions.

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Today I finally managed to get in touch with the auto electrician to check the wipers.

 

the diagnostic tool listed a wiper motor connection problem. Just after that the electrician wired additional wire from cabin computer(?) (around pedals) to wiper connector. Then he turned the key an switched the wipers on. The wipers started to work. :)

So the problem was in the wiring and we just needed to find a cause for that.

 

As soon as we took the battery out we found this:

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This wrapped bunch of wires was rubbing the sharp edge of the battery holder. 

This one was taken after the battery holder removal:
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unwrapped and wire damage inspected:

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Fix in progress:
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And fixed:
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All that has been left to do was place the battery and the air intake plastics back an pay the man for the job well done.

 

btw... remember this?

 

 

I went to the dealer (left the car there) where they diagnosed a motor failure.

:D :D :D

 

Cheers!

Giggs

Edited by giggs

Great result.

A big thumbs up to the good old days where mechanics (rather than parts fitters) try to identify and fix a problem rather than blindly swapping parts until they get lucky.

It looks to me as though someone has been into that wiring before. It looks like the wires are wrapped in electrical tape, not something I've seen on factory fresh wiring looms.

Edited by silver1011

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Great result.

A big thumbs up to the good old days where mechanics (rather than parts fitters) try to identify and fix a problem rather than blindly swapping parts until they get lucky.

Yes. A big thumbs up from me to!

 

It looks to me as though someone has been into that wiring before. It looks like the wires are wrapped in electrical tape, not something I've seen on factory fresh wiring looms.

 

You know what?! That's exactly what he pointed out. But I'm the owner from the day one and had no issues with wiring till now.

 

That's probably another unusual thing about my car. This was the first one...

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/312465-octavia-vrs-candy-white-paint-thickness/

Cheers!

G

Plastic tape is used, It is cheaper than heavy duty waterproof fabric tape. And it could bring them more work in at a later date too

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