Must admit a couple of years ago i considered buying one on the strength of my friend's 2ltr diesel which I liked very much ,but in the end opted for a  9 year old Honda CVR Vtec. That's a good car as well and i don't regret  buying it,  but  it is undeniably more expensive to run in terms of fuel consumption, road tax and has a higher insurance grade as well .In short it costs me £600 pa just to have it on the road and thats with full NCB. Anyway now I am thinking of trading it for 1.6 Yeti Greenline but like many people have concerns about the dreaded DPF. I'd like to know what issues current owners have with it ?Do they run the vehicle in the recommended fashion ( 20 minutes a  week 2000 RPM per week) and  how regeneration is best done etc ? Can I also expect similar reliability as with all things Honda? I recently spoke to someone who thinks the dPF scare stories  are grossly exaggerated and that using manufacturers recommended methods ( as in ,for example, Peugeot/Citroen additives) ensures their vehicles dont present any problems even when using in urban areas with lots of stop start journeys.

I would greatly appreciate some feedback , thanks

Hi, I've done 28k with my Yeti, never had an issue withe DPF regeneration. I live on the IOW so don't do long journeys. It seems to regen every couple of hundred miles. If I catch it during a regen I try to drive it until its finished. Apart from that I wouldn't worry about it. It sorts itself out. HTH

Whilst I do a 20 mile commute each way, three times a week, with extended runs at 2000rpm plus it still sometimes does a regen. if I go into a local town and dawdle about which surprises me.

 

As well as the commuting I use the top grade branded diesel as I believe it is better for the EGR valve etc. 

 

Problem with buying second-hand of course is that you don't how it has been driven previously and what the state of the EGR and DPF is? Unless that can be determined by diagnostics?

Whilst I do a 20 mile commute each way, three times a week, with extended runs at 2000rpm plus it still sometimes does a regen. if I go into a local town and dawdle about which surprises me.

 

As well as the commuting I use the top grade branded diesel as I believe it is better for the EGR valve etc. 

 

Problem with buying second-hand of course is that you don't how it has been driven previously and what the state of the EGR and DPF is? Unless that can be determined by diagnostics?

Thats a fair point .Buying a used car is always a bit of a lottery for the reasons you gave.I bought my CVR from a Honda dealership which, by all accounts, is keen too protect its reputation therefore will ensure the vehicles they sell will be in a reasonable condition .Nevertheless upon its first yearly service I had to have brake shoes replaced and some other parts at a cost of about £800. The fact you mention the EGR suggests to me its both a costly  part and one that commonly needs   replacing

from Honest John

"DPFs also have an 'active' cycle where additional fuel is injected into the combustion chambers to create hotter than normal exhaust gases to burn off particulates in the DPF. However, this does not always work, particularly if the car has done a high proportion of short runs from cold starts and instead of burning off the particulate the extra fuel can instead find its way into the engine sump, contaminating the lube oil and sometimes leading to such a rise in sump oil level that the engine can start to run uncontrollably on its sump oil and will self-destruct."

 

This "not always working" looks very alarming .Is it something that has occurred VAG vehicles ?

 

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/diesel-particulate-filters/

I've had 3 diesel yetis ,including a Greenline, and never had any problems.

I just drive normally.

In 5 years on Briskoda I can only remember 1 member with multiple regenerations of the DPF and none with EGR  problems.

Most of the issues people have had from DPFs is from the ones fitted about 10 years ago when they were first forced upon manufacturers in order to meet Euro V standards. Add in a lot of mis-selling in the early days with sales staff failing to point out the shortcomings to lower mileage drivers. I think the combination of better DPFs and better advice from sales staff is seeing this as less of an issue.

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all told a pretty good endorsement 

 

Most of the issues people have had from DPFs is from the ones fitted about 10 years ago when they were first forced upon manufacturers in order to meet Euro V standards. Add in a lot of mis-selling in the early days with sales staff failing to point out the shortcomings to lower mileage drivers. I think the combination of better DPFs and better advice from sales staff is seeing this as less of an issue.


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So the suggestion would seem that they are still not suitable for low mileage drivers.You see  I had an argument with someone who thinks doing 6 miles a day is ok provided one practices active regeneration of  the DPF as and when .Citroen /Peugeot  use an additive which gets replaced every 70k miles or so.Other manufacturers use different methods .Personally i would be more at ease practicing the passive method which involves driving for 20 minutes once a week doing about 2.500 rpm, but I am trying to ascertain if he is right and the DPF issue is no more than a scare story

I do about 5000 miles a year, with a few 10 mile journeys most weeks at about 50mph. Hardly ever drive at over 1800rpm.

The car has done a couple of regens judging by the "hot " smell from around the exhaust pipe on those occasions.

No problems otherwise.

I do about 5000 miles a year, with a few 10 mile journeys most weeks at about 50mph. Hardly ever drive at over 1800rpm.

The car has done a couple of regens judging by the "hot " smell from around the exhaust pipe on those occasions.

No problems otherwise.

Ok well thanks for the feedback .Actually all the post have been helpful 

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I do about 5000 miles a year, with a few 10 mile journeys most weeks at about 50mph. Hardly ever drive at over 1800rpm.

The car has done a couple of regens judging by the "hot " smell from around the exhaust pipe on those occasions.

No problems otherwise.

I've only done about 5k. since I bought the car last year and even with my usage mentioned above mine has already regenerated a number of times.

 

Of course those are the ones you know about i.e. when reaching your destination and stopping the engine part way through the cycle when you are greeted with a blast of heat and smell!

 

Some regens. I understand occur when you are driving and you know little about it. I used to know in my A6 though because it was a Multitronic and the revs would increase even though on the level and doing a constant speed.

I do about 5000 miles a year, with a few 10 mile journeys most weeks at about 50mph. Hardly ever drive at over 1800rpm.

The car has done a couple of regens judging by the "hot " smell from around the exhaust pipe on those occasions.

No problems otherwise.

+1

With both Yeti's, a 110 2WD and a 140 4X4. Just drive it.

 

Fred

all told a pretty good endorsement

So the suggestion would seem that they are still not suitable for low mileage drivers.You see I had an argument with someone who thinks doing 6 miles a day is ok provided one practices active regeneration of the DPF as and when .Citroen /Peugeot use an additive which gets replaced every 70k miles or so.Other manufacturers use different methods .Personally i would be more at ease practicing the passive method which involves driving for 20 minutes once a week doing about 2.500 rpm, but I am trying to ascertain if he is right and the DPF issue is no more than a scare story

Yes - not ideal still. Whilst the DPF is now less of an issue it hasn't gone away completely. Add in that diesel economy isn't much different to petrol over short distances because diesels take so much longer to warm up and the fact that diesels cost more and the petrol case is still stronger for low mileage drivers. Cap it off with modern petrol turbos having more flexible low down torque characteristics and the general 'falling out of favour' of diesels and the petrol case becomes strong.

A good salesman should give you advice on which to make an informed decision. However, some people are not to be swayed from what they want, even if not really the best decision. The customer is always right after all.

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Yes - not ideal still. Whilst the DPF is now less of an issue it hasn't gone away completely. Add in that diesel economy isn't much different to petrol over short distances because diesels take so much longer to warm up and the fact that diesels cost more and the petrol case is still stronger for low mileage drivers. Cap it off with modern petrol turbos having more flexible low down torque characteristics and the general 'falling out of favour' of diesels and the petrol case becomes strong.

A good salesman should give you advice on which to make an informed decision. However, some people are not to be swayed from what they want, even if not really the best decision. The customer is always right after all.

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Many thanks .As my wife has  a Fiat 500 which is fine in urban areas but not so good on long runs ,I think I might trade my CRV for a Greenline and use that for the odd occasion we decide to go inland

I sense a 'range' reduction with, what I assume is a regen, which, after a while is mostly recovered.......you do have to be a bit OCD to notice though.