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On 08/06/2018 at 23:13, MickA said:

Rather than creating a separate thread I'm having problems, who's not with Windows 10?

Apart from constant updates making the system run slow the latest update has disabled my ability to control the screen brightness, and it's only gone and left it on the brightest setting, my eyes are bulging I think I need shades to see the screen properly now.

Trying to find or update the display drivers have drawn a blank, it's either or both Intel and HP won't or don't want to support a laptop that has been upgraded to Win10 with any drivers for the display adaptor, Microsoft are no help, nothing found there.

I've took the latest update off but it's not solved anything, it updated again anyway with something else.

 

So we are thinking of rolling it back to whatever it was before Win 7 I think or should I do a fresh install of what I have, it's peeing me off big time now?
 

 

 

We'll this is now resolved, my Win10 did yet another update and upon restarting my screen brightness is now adjustable again. Mind of it's own I think.

  • 2 weeks later...

W10 in all it's editions is a MARMITE OS. I didn't like how slow it was compared to W7 in it's pre creator v1709 version. Buyt having upgraded to 1709, I'm impressed. BUT( and with MS there's always a but) , I run a TP LINK wifi adapter from my downstair router and regularly MS tries to update certain drivers on my PC. I t matters not that I have not these drivers installed, MS just wants toupdate the drivers. I've even un installed the makers ( MB) DRIVERS, but still MS wants to update,and every time, the update ,which fails, corrupts the TP LINK drivers and my WIFI connection fails ,till I repair the drivers.

 

  • 2 months later...

Ever since the so called "April 2018" update which for me happened in June....my computer has done stupid things & I have had to reinstall stuff as Win10 things its better...

 

Anyway did another "minor" update today.....which caused several freezes, failed start ups etc.....Finally got the computer running & find that yet again this "spectre" update causes loads of problems even on the intel cpu which its designed for...

 

I have an 7i, 8 core on a gaming board, with 16GB of ram & several hard drivers....no wonder others who have smaller cpus, less ram etc have total failure of the computer...

 

I thought win10 was supposed to be leaner than win7??…...FFS MS..sort your stuff out!!!...

 

I suppose I could swap to apple....& then buy new computers every time a component fails as they are a PITA to fix (hardware) compared to my current system which I built myself...

Bizarrely I've not seen many issues with W10. We're on the delayed upgrade branch at work so most problems are ironed out in the 6 months between release and us upgrading, but I've not seen any issues on my own personal computers.

8 minutes ago, Babs said:

Bizarrely I've not seen many issues with W10. We're on the delayed upgrade branch at work so most problems are ironed out in the 6 months between release and us upgrading, but I've not seen any issues on my own personal computers.

 

How the feck have you managed that???...….

On 28/08/2018 at 21:59, fabdavrav said:

 

How the feck have you managed that???...….

 

Commodity hardware helps. ~250 machines, 80% Dell, 20% MS Surface. Being 6 months behind certainly helps with drivers and other software definitely. Only issues we've had was McAfee an 1703 - had to stall on 1609 for 9 months in total before they fixed the issue.

 

And my own custom built desktop and two HP laptops here are on 1803 with zero problems!

I finally got the April update onto my Lenovo 100s netbook thingy. And it's only September. That was a last gasp before it was heading to the skip since they're a PITA to put Linux on.

On 04/09/2018 at 10:27, Aspman said:

I finally got the April update onto my Lenovo 100s netbook thingy. And it's only September. That was a last gasp before it was heading to the skip since they're a PITA to put Linux on.

Doing the Windoze update on a netbook is an exercise in frustration. I ended up doing a re-install of W10 as that was the only way I could sufficient space (wouldn't allow me to do it as an upgrade off a USB, memory card or HDD).

 

Thatnkfully later updates have all been smaller and fitted on without the same frustration.

1 hour ago, kilted said:

Doing the Windoze update on a netbook is an exercise in frustration. I ended up doing a re-install of W10 as that was the only way I could sufficient space (wouldn't allow me to do it as an upgrade off a USB, memory card or HDD).

 

Thatnkfully later updates have all been smaller and fitted on without the same frustration.

I'm on the Windows Insider program so I get W10 updates every few days, never had any problem installing them on my tablet - which only has a 64GB SSD.

 

After every update I always run the built-in cleanup to remove the previous Windows version, which is usually 12-17GB.

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1 hour ago, kilted said:

Doing the Windoze update on a netbook is an exercise in frustration. I ended up doing a re-install of W10 as that was the only way I could sufficient space (wouldn't allow me to do it as an upgrade off a USB, memory card or HDD).

 

Thatnkfully later updates have all been smaller and fitted on without the same frustration.

 

I used the media creator tool and put the update on a USB stick (32Gb) (not the two USB sticks the MS instructions called for). I had to use CCleaner to empty as much of the drive as possible (it's only 32Gb). After it was successful I had to remove 13Gb of update files using CCleaner again.

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5 minutes ago, Aspman said:

 

I used the media creator tool and put the update on a USB stick (32Gb) (not the two USB sticks the MS instructions called for). I had to use CCleaner to empty as much of the drive as possible (it's only 32Gb). After it was successful I had to remove 13Gb of update files using CCleaner again.

I went down the route of the media creator and it failed numerous times - I had previously tried all other methods suggested of various forums/websites. With 32GB on board storage and W10 taking 20 (along with the assorted MS bloatware that I don't want and can't uninstall) there wasn't sufficient room for the update. Tried using a 32GB USB and it failed a number of times during reboots.

 

What would have been nice would have been the ability to adopt SD storage as I had a 64GB card inserted but it wont allow you to use it for updating (I tried that route about a dozen times with various tweaks to the procedures).

Will the media creator only update, or does it do a complete wipe? 

 

I too am struggling with a notebook to update to 1803, but just want to update not start fresh 

It was just an update as far as I could tell. The files on the USB disk were 2Gb so no idea why the media creator demands so much space.

I can only speak for my experience of the Media creation tool which is that it failed multiple times despite following the instructions to the letter. According to the information they provide you SHOULD be able to use an 8gb USB to do the update without wiping anything. I tried everything from a 8GB USB, 32GB usb and 250GB usb external HDD with the same result - a failed attempt at update.

 

The only way I could get the latest version on board was the nuclear option of clearing it and starting again.

The instructions I saw were out of date. I think MS has given up any pretence of doing things properly. Like everywhere else they are devoted to the great god "Agile". Fail fast and fail often. Which might work fine in a test environment but is a major PITA for customers when they do it live.

 

Have you tried using CCleaner to get as much space as you can? You need to remove the previous installation files which will take up 90% of your free space. Apologies if I'm trying to teach granny to suck eggs.

I gave up on "Mickeysh@ft doing things properly" in about 2_000CE, when the code base for Excel (I think) included a working demo of Doom!

I don't understand why the 1803 update must restart from the beginning every time it fails. 

 

It downloads 3 separate parts, then fails when installing. 

 

After the October update, from what I've read, you must have the April update? 

Upgraded both our laptops to Windows 10 and not a single issue.

 

The laptop I am typing this on was bought in 2008 as a Win XP Pro machine. Upgraded it to dual boot Windows 7 Pro using an E-Bay CD and ID with no issues. The Win 7 partition has been upgraded several times now to the current Win 10 Pro with no issues.

 

Only 2gb RAM and a 250 GB hard drive but as I say, no issues.

I've no problems either, my Linx tablet 32gb required a empty 32gb USB flash drive to update (it did take ages, as it had to download the update and then install). All the others ( all 6 -  laptop, vm, and the 4 desktops (one AMD, rest Intel)  have had no issues.

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5 hours ago, KenONeill said:

I gave up on "Mickeysh@ft doing things properly" in about 2_000CE, when the code base for Excel (I think) included a working demo of Doom!

 

Oh aye I remember there was a 3d flight simulator in Excel 97 or something like that

 

https://kb.iu.edu/d/agqw

 

  • 3 years later...

Earlier this week I upgraded my Windows 10 to pro. Here is the detailed information on getting it, though it's not free. If anybody willing to upgrade, can checkout the article.

  • 2 months later...

A month/or so  ago, I was happy with my Asus MB. It did what I wanted, albeit a bit slower than I'd expect. Then my son had problems with his I5 motherboard. I suspected a MB problem and bank of dad bought him a new MB. Weeks later, he had a chance of a free PC. Again it cost me for a bit of memory as an extra. Possibly to sweeten the deal. but a few weeks later I got a dads' day present. An upgraded I5 MB which ran my memory at full speed. Currently, running. And faster than I really need. 

  • 2 years later...

Sorry for this resurrection, but I got a funny issue with Win10 ... I started using it just couple months ago (don't laugh), upset by the start/menu pop display which is substantially different than the one I had in Win7 (classic layout, I no like frills), I downloaded some program called "Classic Shell" which looks faily similar to the Win7 layout. However I cannot seem to be able to customize it so I can see recently opened programs in the pop up, as I was able with Win7.

Anybody that has managed to understand my cumbersome explanation has an idea? Thanks! 🤪

No idea about Classic shell but in Win 10 all the programs are classed as "Apps" if you click on the window you get a list of "pinned" apps. You can right click on them and "unpin"  You can also click "all apps" and select the ones you want pinned by right clicking and click "pin to start"

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