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Hi All,

 

I want an estate car, with a Diesel engine with no DPF.

 

Can anyone tell me what engine to go for?

 

Audi A4 Avant PD140 up to 2008?

 

What about the V6's?

The 2.0 TDI 140 PD was available in the mk2 Octavia up to 2010.

 

That's not got a DPF unless it is a 4x4

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The 2.0 TDI 140 PD was available in the mk2 Octavia up to 2010.

 

That's not got a DPF unless it is a 4x4

Oh really, so probably the 2010 Elegance PD140 would be the best. The L&K is 170 isnt it?

I have the feeling the 2.0 PD140 had a DPF on the Audi but could depend on model year (2006 ish onwards?).

 

In terms of the V6 diesels. The 2.5 definitely didn't have a DPF but I hear a lot of problems with this engine.

 

The 3.0 TDI is the better engine but again they did introduce a DPF around the same year.

Oh really, so probably the 2010 Elegance PD140 would be the best. The L&K is 170 isnt it?

 

Nope, the L&K is the 140 PD too. 

 

Only the vRS got the 170 engine with the DPF.

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I have the feeling the 2.0 PD140 had a DPF on the Audi but could depend on model year (2006 ish onwards?).

 

In terms of the V6 diesels. The 2.5 definitely didn't have a DPF but I hear a lot of problems with this engine.

 

The 3.0 TDI is the better engine but again they did introduce a DPF around the same year.

look slik ethe 3.0 are all quattros? So DPF like the Octavia?

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Nope, the L&K is the 140 PD too. 

 

Only the vRS got the 170 engine with the DPF.

OOH, I like the L&K

look slik ethe 3.0 are all quattros? So DPF like the Octavia?

 

So a quick google suggests that the more power 230bhp version (from March 06) has a DPF but the older 201bhp version does not.

 

The only other consideration then is the gearbox. On a 2005/2006 ish car it is likely to have the "multitronic" gearbox... which is just a big no! They are plagued with problems. When searching for a convertible we looked at Audi A4s and they all had the multitronic in and found a few very cheap cars described as having "gearbox problems".

 

Edit: Scrap that. The Quattros had a conventional 6 speed ZF made gearbox.

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One easy way to tell them apart is to just check the CO2 rating by putting the reg in: https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

 

On the facelift estate:

 

2.0 PD L&K DSG: 158 g/km

2.0 PD L&K Manual:  145 g/km

2.0 CR L&K DSG: 143 g/km

2.0 CR L&K Manual: 129 g/km

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So a quick google suggests that the more power 230bhp version (from March 06) has a DPF but the older 201bhp version does not.

 

The only other consideration then is the gearbox. On a 2005/2006 ish car it is likely to have the "multitronic" gearbox... which is just a big no! They are plagued with problems. When searching for a convertible we looked at Audi A4s and they all had the multitronic in and found a few very cheap cars described as having "gearbox problems".

 

Edit: Scrap that. The Quattros had a conventional 6 speed ZF made gearbox.

 

ZF box, possibly the best box in the world

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One easy way to tell them apart is to just check the CO2 rating by putting the reg in: https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

 

On the facelift estate:

 

2.0 PD L&K DSG: 158 g/km

2.0 PD L&K Manual:  145 g/km

2.0 CR L&K DSG: 143 g/km

2.0 CR L&K Manual: 129 g/km

 

So the CR140 has a DPF and the PD140 doesnt?

So the CR140 has a DPF and the PD140 doesnt?

 

Yes that's right for 2WD Octavias.

 

The 2.0 TDI in the 4x4 and Scout got a DPF.

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SO How late do the A4's have the PD140 and no DPF?

Aren't the 2.0 TDI PD in the A4s engines to avoid as they suffer the oil pump/balance shaft issues?

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Aren't the 2.0 TDI PD in the A4s engines to avoid as they suffer the oil pump/balance shaft issues?

Wouldn't that affect all the 2.0 PD lumps in all VAG cars?

Ah yes! Forgot about that issue too.

 

They have oil pumps made of chocolate.

 

I think your best bet is going to be an Octavia L&K 2.0 PD140.

 

Unless you really fancy a V6 TDI in which case an Audi 3.0 TDI (prior to 2006).

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    Yes, I am thinking a PD140 (2010?) L&K, providing I can find one circa 100k miles or less.

    I've done a search and there aren't many 2.0 they are mainly 1.9s.

     

    What's your budget though?

     

    There's a nice one here:

     

    http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201610038381184?maximum-mileage=100000&sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&year-from=2009&make=SKODA&postcode=yo243ej&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&body-type=Estate&radius=1500&model=OCTAVIA&year-to=2010&page=7

     

    But it's £8k.

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    8k seems a bit steep for that, but then again 80k miles... i was thinking 4-6 depending on spec. Xenons, Sunset glass, its ticking a lot of boxes. No sat nav which seems a shame but not unsummountable...

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    I dont know, the Leon is a DSG and is wonderful to drive. And after driving the Leon a manual just seem slike so much effort, then again a manual is more fun, so im not too bothered.

     

    I did see this one, but it screams cigar smoking uncle theodore to me, dont know why. Mind you beggars... choosers.....

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