Tonight I did something which I don't think was very good for the car. Basically I had to drive up a steep slope to an automated barrier. Crawled to a stop because I didn't know how close for it to detect the car then when it started to open, I kept pushing on the accelerator to hold it then drove off. 

 

Not a great situation. Did I do much wear with that? You can assume by my asking the question that I generally try to drive the car with mechanical sympathy. 

 

Does the wet clutch, meaning oil lubricated means that the clutch don't wear like normal?

 

Also, can wearable parts of a 6 spd wet DSG be replaced? or is it when one thing breaks, the entire transmission has to be replaced?

Edited 1 March, 20179 yr by newskodadriver

29 minutes ago, newskodadriver said:

Tonight I did something which I don't think was very good for the car. Basically I had to drive up a steep slope to an automated barrier. Crawled to a stop because I didn't know how close for it to detect the car then when it started to open, I kept pushing on the accelerator to hold it then drove off. 

 

Not a great situation. Did I do much wear with that? You can assume by my asking the question that I generally try to drive the car with mechanical sympathy. 

 

Does the wet clutch, meaning oil lubricated means that the clutch don't wear like normal?

 

Also, can wearable parts of a 6 spd wet DSG be replaced? or is it when one thing breaks, the entire transmission has to be replaced?

The clutch packs are replaceable, not too sure how often it's required though.

 

Advice for the future, if you have the same / similar situation, move the selector over the manual position & select 1st gear. Less wear on the clutches when crawling in the lowest possible gear ratio.

 

HTH, DC

5 hours ago, old newbie2 said:

The clutch packs are replaceable, not too sure how often it's required though.

 

Advice for the future, if you have the same / similar situation, move the selector over the manual position & select 1st gear. Less wear on the clutches when crawling in the lowest possible gear ratio.

 

HTH, DC

 

This is a good point, assuming the car has gone into 2nd gear (which it often does when you don't want it to).

 

I hate driving on inclines in my DSG ... worse than in my manual LOL!  Just feels like you're going to break something.

 

Another thing I do is use the handbrake on steep inclines.

5 hours ago, stylo said:

 

This is a good point, assuming the car has gone into 2nd gear (which it often does when you don't want it to).

 

I hate driving on inclines in my DSG ... worse than in my manual LOL!  Just feels like you're going to break something.

 

Another thing I do is use the handbrake on steep inclines.

I "think" that there have been some software changes on the latest 6-speed DSG's, in that in "D" mode both our old cars will not drop into 1st gear until the car has stopped moving, 

whereas the '16 Golf does. We notice it when approaching our drive, in the old cars we need to select 1st manually, but the Golf is already there!

 

As for the handbrake, that's a big yes! To start on a hill, select "D", apply throttle & realese the hand brake, just like driving a manual....

 

If your car has the electric parking brake & auto-hold, read the manual &/or VW's idiot guide to their technology, it explains how it helps will hill-starts & a start-stop traffic.

 

 

HTH, DC

 

 

In 15 years of working on these cars I have never seen or heard of a clutch pack failure on a 6 speed wet dsg gearbox or heard of one requiring replacement. 

On 3/1/2017 at 17:51, James@RRGRochdale said:

In 15 years of working on these cars I have never seen or heard of a clutch pack failure on a 6 speed wet dsg gearbox or heard of one requiring replacement. 

Came across one today with 490000km, Never driven easy  Most Irish (except for the Dubs) people may know it as it was owned by MHR

In my Superb (MY2013) the gear indicator can lie sometimes.  In some slow traffic it will show "2" but is actually in 1st gear and slipping the clutch packs.  I know this as if I then place it in manual there is no gear change back to first but the indicator goes back to showing "1".  I'm sure a VCDS measuring block would indeed show K1 closed and K2 open if I logged it in this scenario.

 

From what Old Newbie2 said above, they may have altered this behaviour on the newer boxes.

58 minutes ago, wokwon said:

In my Superb (MY2013) the gear indicator can lie sometimes.  In some slow traffic it will show "2" but is actually in 1st gear and slipping the clutch packs.  I know this as if I then place it in manual there is no gear change back to first but the indicator goes back to showing "1".  I'm sure a VCDS measuring block would indeed show K1 closed and K2 open if I logged it in this scenario.

 

From what Old Newbie2 said above, they may have altered this behaviour on the newer boxes.

Surely if you're in 2nd in slow traffic, the clutches might well be slipping, but if it drops into 1st the clutches wouldn't be slipping at all?

 

I don't drive the Golf that often, but the shifts are more noticeable at slow speeds, & I suspect that this is deliberate.

It is supposed to be a "sporty" car, maybe the DSG is set-up to give a more "sporty" driving experience, when compared to a Superb.

 

DC 

21 hours ago, old newbie2 said:

Surely if you're in 2nd in slow traffic, the clutches might well be slipping, but if it drops into 1st the clutches wouldn't be slipping at all?

 

 

 

The reason I think it's lieing is:

- When it shows "2" the revs are higher and the clutches are slipping;

- When I put it into "M 1" the revs drop, the clutch closes but the road speed is still the same.  

 

The "RPM drop but same road speed" thing is what makes me thing it's showing 2 but is actually in 1 and slipping.

 

Maybe it's in some weird space between 1 and 2.  One day I'll log K1 and K2 with VCDS and see what's actually happening.