Have now got the letter regarding the change to be done.Have read several comments from you guys that have had it done and it seems a mixed bag whether it improves anything.Any further comments?.

Why bother, what's to gain, a cleaner conscience?

 

Whats to lose? A reliable car.

1 hour ago, pastiche said:

Have now got the letter regarding the change to be done.Have read several comments from you guys that have had it done and it seems a mixed bag whether it improves anything.Any further comments?.

 

I work within the Volkswagen group as a service advisor & after what I've seen lately coming through the door give it a swerve. 

Heard that from another vw service advisor friend also ^^^

 Got my letter today as well certainly will not be having mine  done 

I got my letter today but I have also been watching this EA 189 Yeti 1.6l forum

 

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/429970-ea189-emmisions-update-my-experience/

 

It now runs to five pages but look for the letter one guy has written to Skoda which is at about page four.

The general consensus is don't have the service action done unless further proofs and guarantees are offered.

 

I will not be having mine done and will be writing to the garage to that effect. It seems that some people are having the fix applied during routine service without being asked on the 2.0 l engine so same may happen on the 1.6 l.

Got my letter today for my Scout, and definitely will not be having it done. I have been reading the Facebook VW group that are reporting having lots of problems post 'fix', EGR, DPF, and Injector failures among others. VW are ignoring their complaints.

 VW Emissions Scandal Facebook Group

 

Hi guys, I've been reading through the forums for a while but just thought i'd sign up a few days ago to talk about my personal experience, especially seen as everyone seems to have negative comments about the fix.

 

Despite the fact I never thought i'd get it done, after having an injector pack up on me within the last week of warranty and thanks to the service adviser mentioning the additional 2 year warranty offered by skoda post-fix on exhaust and fuel system components, I had mine done roughly 10 days ago. (2011 reg Octavia hatch 1.6TDI )

 

There's some minor differences in the way the car drives, but all in all i'm very happy with the fix.

 

The flat spots before the turbo kicks in have gone a little flatter, but the turbo makes up for it feeling more responsive and more torquey.

 

I had my own very first DPF regen the day after I got the car back but, touch wood, nothing since (and I've done roughly 500 miles on it).

 

I live in a hilly area and might have a fairly heavy foot but consumption has gone from 35-39 mpg and very rarely hitting the 40s on my morning commute to 45 on average, rarely dipping below 40 even on city driving and even hitting 57 once. 

 

I hadn't even seen 50mpg on motorway runs for the 1 year ownership of the car and i'm looking forward to testing this on the motorway soon just to see how different the car is. 

 

While I can understand why so many people don't want it done, it is a bit of a gamble, but I just feels like the addition of a 2 year warranty on some seriously expensive components (injectors, egr valve, etc) on what's now classed as an old car is good enough a reason to do it, at least for me.

Welcome.

What are the T&C's of that Warranty that VW Group are giving you & is there mention of the Servicing required in the next 2 years?

http://www.skoda.co.uk/owners/dieselinfo/trust-building-measure/ that's as much info as I managed to find online about it when I looked it up, seems like it has to be serviced but doesn't specify where, I had mine serviced from an indy garage and they didn't say anything about it even about my injector so I assume it's fine, as long as it's serviced. 

On 26/06/2017 at 22:13, pikpilot said:

It seems that some people are having the fix applied during routine service without being asked on the 2.0 l engine

 

This is my concern as I have my car booked in for a cam belt and water pump change on Wednesday.

 

I have decided not to have the emissions update done unless I have to by law so will make sure the dealer is aware on Wednesday and will ensure it is written on the job sheet before I leave.

 

What are my options if they go ahead and do it anyway? Will they be able to reverse it? If not, would it be as simple as taking it to say Shark and having it re remapped or will my car be goosed?

On 16/07/2017 at 09:21, Jonboy984 said:

 

This is my concern as I have my car booked in for a cam belt and water pump change on Wednesday.

 

I have decided not to have the emissions update done unless I have to by law so will make sure the dealer is aware on Wednesday and will ensure it is written on the job sheet before I leave.

 

What are my options if they go ahead and do it anyway? Will they be able to reverse it? If not, would it be as simple as taking it to say Shark and having it re remapped or will my car be goosed?

 

Well that was easier than expected. I dropped the car off this afternoon ready for tomorrow morning. 

 

I explained that I didn't want the update and they completed a refusal section on their system and printed it out. I had to sign it and then they wrote on the job card not to do the update.

 

I feel better about this and refreshingly, rather than deny any issues, they agreed albeit off the record that it was the right decision.

 

Just a £485 bill to pay tomorrow then :-(

On 6/26/2017 at 20:26, silver1011 said:

Why bother, what's to gain, a cleaner conscience?

 

Whats to lose? A reliable car.

unfortunately not even a cleaner conscience, tests have shown no change to emissions in real world driving at all. Only benefit is VAG as a possible escape route from legal consequences. I'm not risking my car, not even with a signed service docket. I've seen reports of people refusing the update and it still being done with dealers 100% refusing to roll-back. Too many horror stories of failed cars with weeks and months of hassle and entering limp mode in dangerous situations. No thanks, I'll keep my car just the way it is.

36 minutes ago, inkbm said:

tests have shown no change to emissions in real world driving at all

Got a reference for this?

 

The Autocar testing described here, albeit on only one car and with disclaimers later in the article about accuracy, suggest approximately halving of NOx emissions:

 

"The Autocar test was conducted at Millbrook Proving Ground to the standard set by the True MPG real-world test cycle of our sister title What Car?. The test used the latest international standard equipment for testing vehicles in a scientific and repeatable manner to industry standards.

Comment: what does our VW dieselgate fix test prove?

It revealed that while NOx emissions were almost halved from 0.639g/km pre-fix to 0.351g/km post-fix, our test car’s combined fuel economy had fallen from 50.72mpg to 47.61mpg. This means that its CO2 emissions increased from 147.3g/km to 156.9g/km, a change of 6.5%."

 

I accept that this wasn't 'real' on the road, real world conditions, but whatever the "True MPG real-world test cycle" is, it sounds like it might be an approximation of it, better than the EU lab tests for emissions and mpg/CO2?

Edited 11 August, 20178 yr by Wino

Sorry to hijack the thread

 

 

Technically could a car that's been updated be then re mapped afterwards 

 

A friend of mine has a golf 1.6tdi and after the rework it's had no end of problems injectors injector pump even a dpf total about 3k under warranty 

 

Every 100-200 it breaks down in limp mode 

 

Vw have now washed there hands with the car saying it's nothing they have done to cause this and any more work will be charged for after 

 

According to what he says all the remapping places he has tried won't touch it now it's had the rework done 

 

Is that correct 

Edited 11 August, 20178 yr by malcster

^^^ 

Really, VW UK have washed their hands of it officially.   Not just some Dealership?

 

He has the VW Groups 2 year extension warranty for after fix peace of mind for owners, or someone at VW Group like the CEO Paul Willis is telling lies.

A helluva lot on here say @ taken it to Skoda ' when they mean ( I hope ) ' taken it to the Skoda garage ' so maybe means VW garage have washed ?

Or somesuch ?

The car is attempting to regenerate every 200 miles or so and when that happens it doesn't complete puts the car in limp mode 

 

Vw need to force regen it each time and told him in future it will be £180 for each force regen 

 

 

Is that some VW Dealership or VW UK / VW Germany who are paying for 'The Fix' and responsible for the repairs that vehicles are having after The Fix.

 

Have VW UK / VW Germany washed their hands of it and said that in writing, leaving him in a good position legally to take actions against them, 

since they gave assurances about no adverse affects on the vehicle after they were allowed to add it to the number of vehicle they can tell the UK Government 

they removed Defeat Devices from.?

Edited 11 August, 20178 yr by Awayoffski

As far as I'm aware it vw UK as another vw dealer near won't touch it with authorisation (his words not mine) 

 

He is looking at going legal but curious to see if the car can be remapped now the alleged fix has been applied