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Hello people your assistance is required please!! I've read through the forum but couldn't see anything relating to my issue so have raised a new post. Apologies if there is already a similar one out there!! The wife's skido fabia estate 2009 had a motor failure on the drivers side front window. Being quite mechanically minded ordered a second hand unit and fitted. The window works fine but on both door and master switches you press up to send the window down and press down to send the window up?? Have completed resets and all the basics and now pin tested just thinking it might be a cable swap but could only identify one signal cable to the motor. Do these have to be programmed to the car/switch?? Would take the old board out and reuse in the new motor but it's completely knackered!! Any help or experience on this one would be appreciated 

Edited by jjayharvey

Do the motors have the same part number ? I have had it once where the ECU gets confused and needs resetting, is the switch panel wet as I presume the switch would give a resistance of say 1k ohm for  up and then say 10 k ohm for down and if the switch is wet it confuses the ECU by giving a resistance that's different to what it should be.Also check the wiring loom for damage at the door hinge,  Cheers Stuart

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Thanks for your response. motors have same part number, switch panel is fine and if there was loom damage surely the fault would of presented itself before the motor failed?? window works fine just the wrong way round??

Have you troed disconnecting the battery for a couple of minutes to reset everything. Then follow the window reset procedure which I think is fully open and fully close.

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tried this with no success i'm afraid

I've looked at Internet pictures of VAG window motors and it looks like the motor is fastened to the rest of the plastic assembly but there is no evidence of wires going to the motor.  Is it possible that the internal wiring to the motor is via two "plugs" at say 12 and 6 o'clock on the connecting faces and your secondhand unit has had the motor removed and replaced 180 degrees out - that would have the effect of swapping the +ve and -ve terminals?

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on pin testing there is a single cable that send sends the signal from switch to control board on the motor with a varying voltage drop dependant on up or down being selected. I have had the motor out and switched it but the result is still the same.

I read on a SEAT forum that the same happened to someone with a Ibiza of maybe the same age, I'll try to see what the end fix was if it have been reported on that thread. (again when replacing a failed motor with a "good" used one bought on-line.)

 

Edit:- by the way, your thread title makes more sense than the Ibiza one did, it was something like "window inverted" - which did not sound quite right!

Edited by rum4mo

Unfortunately no further, or final posting on the same issue with an 2008 Ibiza front passenger window!  Final suggestion offered was to change the coding, which it is said you can do on the controller, as a LHD person changed his coding and that reversed the operate of that window, though I would expect that it would reverse the operation of all that car's electric windows - though I might be wrong there not having wandered into these controller's options.

 

Edit:- I've requested an update on that problem on the SEAT forum.

Edited by rum4mo

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Many thanks for your help on this. I've messaged a colleague who has a Vag machine to see if they can be coded. In the meantime if i get a result i'll update it!!

I don't know which central electrics controller is in your car, but the "6R" one in the later Ibiza/Polo does seem to be able to be coded for each door, if the youtube video(s) are anything to go by.  Though, while a suggested solution to the 2007/2008 Ibiza, probably 6L version, was showing the later (6J) car's controller, the OP of that thread in the SEAT forum has not come back in response of me requesting an update, though maybe he/she is at work?

 

Edit:- I'm now thinking that your age of Fabia will have the same central electric controller as the Ibiza that I was telling you about, so looks like a common issue, hope that Ibiza person posts back with his solution.

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Many thanks, i've had the controller out his afternoon to see if there is anyway to reverse the operation but it seems the main contacts that feed the motor are built into the board. If i get anything whilst waiting for an asnwer on the other post i'll update.

By the way, I'm talking about the main controller which will be elsewhere in the car, not the local window master controller, which, I think is part of the driver's electric window motor assembly.

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Thanks! gathered that was just trying to see if there was a simple way to reverse the motor. Looks like a plug in is required 

  • 2 years later...

Hi jjayj

 

my daughter has just got her first car to learn in , skoda mk2, and it has exactly the same issue with the drivers window, up is down! also, it will go down a third over night on its own accord. ive found a temp workaround about the weird overnight issue. But im completly baffled to the reverse operation of the drivers window. 

pleasse tell me you resolved the issue and can you kindly let me know what the resolution was

 

most grateful

 

kev

I can't see how coding would fix this / why its even "codable".............and more to the point how the coding even changed itself

 

I would suggest the problem lies in the drivers door window motor / controller as thats the master which all the others go through, more likely water ingress / corrosion.

Edited by UrbanPanzer

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