First Oil Change

[kenfowler3966]

Wet clutch gearbox has to be done at 40k miles, not sure about dry clutch one on 1.2

[lomalla]

I had a dry already in a Golf -08, its fluid lasts forever

[lomalla]

Fluid in the dry one lasts forever.

[Sad555]

DSG transmission oil & filter change (every 40,000 miles)^plus the cost of a service

£184

Edited 31 August, 2017 by Sad555

[weasley]

1 hour ago, lomalla said:

Fluid in the dry one lasts forever.

 

The phrase used in the industry is "fill-for-life" which is very different from "lasts forever".  The oil will supposedly last the lifetime of the transmission, which is open to interpretation in terms of what the useful lifetime of the transmission in the vehicle is.  The fluid will certainly not last forever though.

[Ootohere]

lomalla, 

RE Fluid in 'the dry one',

 eg the DQ200 7 Speed Twin Dry Clutch,   but then VW Group did a world wide recall in 2012/13 to change the Synthetic Oil to Mineral & do a software update.

as there was internal corrosion, and this did not affect Europe, except in 2013 VW Group started a Service Campaign to change Synthetic oil to mineral and do a software update...

'34F7'

 

Then in 2016 VW Group had to introduce a Service Campaign on some of 'The Dry Ones' built from 2013-2015 to do a software update due to issues with oil pressure / heat.

So time will tell on the 'Filled for life', & Fluid in the dry ones & 'Lasts for ever'.

'34H5'

 

eg, New Zealand where so few were sold that new Mechatronic Units were fitted,  climate not that different from some European Countries....

http://skoda.co.nz/news/dsg-service-campaign 

Edited 31 August, 2017 by Awayoffski

[kenfowler3966]

The oil in the dry clutch gearbox is under a lot less strain than in the wet clutch. Operating the clutch in the same fluid should give the clutch plates a very long life but the oil will get very hot and stressed as it transmits the load between the plates as they start to bite together.

 

Dry clutch oil doesn't do this so potentially can last a very long time. However the clutches won't as they wear significantly every time they engage.

[Ootohere]

Potentially it can,

but it was Synthetic and actually it turned out to be wrong, so now there is mineral oil in, but then there are 2 oil types used in a DQ200 7 speed DSG, 

and different software depending on the engines ps, and petrol or diesel.

 

Funnily the good clutches in DQ200 do rather well, and the faulty, or poor QC ones VW procured did not last well.

Vorsprung Durch Technik.....   Take a few years of owners as real world roadtesters and eventually you will get it right. Never admit that though,,, 

As to the 6 Speed Wet DSG, just discontinue, and start fitting 7 speed wets.

Edited 31 August, 2017 by Awayoffski

[kenfowler3966]

Having come from a 5 speed manual to a 6 speed dsg, does the extra seventh gear make that much difference?

 

Some are complaining that the gears are selected too early anyway making it sound like the engine is labouring in too high a gear. My experience with the 6 speed is it seems just about correct as it is. Presumably first and top are still about the same ratio, so you are just going through one more gear on the way?

[Ootohere]

VW had to do something because new type approvals are going to be having a bit stricter EU testing from after this week, 

so much less Co2 g/km & NoX / mpg cheating and kidology will be going on so up the gears and save the world from greenhouse gasses....