Ok so am currently driving the above while my car is in the spaceport for warranty work to the clutches. Got to say it's the first time I've driven one over several days and it's proving to be a great workhorse! It's nippy in town and not too bad at all on the dual carriageways. Cruises ok at 70 even with passengers. Not the same thump in the back that my 110ps engine gives me when I hit the throttle as you might imagine but it's respectable non the less. Not quite as economical as my 1.2TSI 110ps engined car either. Falling short by around 5-8mpg in real world driving. But then my normal car is DSG which give around 2-3mpg's more than the 110ps manual version anyway so I may notice it more than someone who normally drives a manual car. The car is the garages courtesy car and has near 13k on the clock but drives beautifully. They also cost peanuts to buy...what's not to like!

Hi Estate Man, hows it going? Hope you manage to get sorted with yours, the DSG is a lovely box to drive.

 

My Seat Mii had the 74 ps engine and yes they are surprisingly capable around town and on the Motorway. I suspect the Fabia is quite a bit heavier so not sure how it would be on a longer journey.

 

As I said in a previous post, I took my little Mii from Lincs up to the Moray Firth and covered around 1200 miles in the trip. It was a pleasure to drive and live with. Just a problem with 2 up and luggage. It was not worth the risk trying to overtake on an A road, there was nothing there in reserve when I put my foot down. It would however build up quickly to 70 on the Motorway and I could have easily done 90mph but of course I'd never do that.

 

When I recently bought my 1.2 110ps (16 Reg.,) I wondered about buying a new  74ps  but shy'd away as I just think they're a tad under powered for me to live with. They do look cracking value otherwise though.

 

Harry

Hi mate! Yep, I see what you mean, nice little engines. Nice cars!  In general it's an ok motor, maybe just a bit underpowered for my liking but still ok. My wife who mostly does some dual carriageway work and a lot of town work is very happy in it. I only found it lacking when overtaking with passengers. I think your 110ps engined car is probably the right choice though...as you drive her over the next few weeks and months you will without doubt explore the performance and I'm sure will love it more and more.

 

Regarding my own DSG clutch issue. Skoda feels confident the problem is going to be fixed and there won't be anymore slipping once the newly designed clutch is fitted. They want the car for several days as they want to examine several things that Skoda has asked them to check. Manufacturers always like to look as stuff in situations like this. I've had to do it myself when I tech'ed. It's called, constant evaluation' designed to make sure they don't miss anything. Within our family and friends and neighbours, I'm the only one that has this clutch slip issue on a DSG. All our friends, family, neighbours have DSG's, some with 25-30k miles on the clock and no slipping problems so the issue seems quite confined by comparison.

 

Take care

Ian

On 02/05/2018 at 12:56, Estate Man said:

Hi mate! Yep, I see what you mean, nice little engines. Nice cars!  In general it's an ok motor, maybe just a bit underpowered for my liking but still ok. My wife who mostly does some dual carriageway work and a lot of town work is very happy in it. I only found it lacking when overtaking with passengers. I think your 110ps engined car is probably the right choice though...as you drive her over the next few weeks and months you will without doubt explore the performance and I'm sure will love it more and more.

 

Regarding my own DSG clutch issue. Skoda feels confident the problem is going to be fixed and there won't be anymore slipping once the newly designed clutch is fitted. They want the car for several days as they want to examine several things that Skoda has asked them to check. Manufacturers always like to look as stuff in situations like this. I've had to do it myself when I tech'ed. It's called, constant evaluation' designed to make sure they don't miss anything. Within our family and friends and neighbours, I'm the only one that has this clutch slip issue on a DSG. All our friends, family, neighbours have DSG's, some with 25-30k miles on the clock and no slipping problems so the issue seems quite confined by comparison.

 

Take care

Ian

 

I never had a problem with my DSG, best gearbox I have ever driven.

 

There are some very high mile one's about now too both dry and wet versions. Of course there's always going to be some with issues but VW have sold thousands and the only way a proper reliability figure could be derived at would be if the number sold was known and the number faulty too. That way you could arrive at a percentage of faulty ones and I suspect it would be minuscule.

 

Personally I would not include the recall for the oil change as a gearbox fault.

 

I'm certainly enjoying mine and hope to get a longer trip in it soon. I do like the manual 6 speed box.

 

Good luck with the repair work, let's know how you get on.

 

Harry.

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Edited 3 May, 20188 yr by horkin

I had a Polo rental with the 75PS engine a couple of years ago in Spain. It was.... slow. But it was fine for what it is. I would want the extra power of the TSI (hence going for the TSI Fabia!) but if you spend most of your time driving in town, then it makes perfect sense. It would be a great option for learners/new drivers with the cheap insurance too!

horkin,

2,200 DQ200 DSG's coming off the Skoda production line every day.

 

The issue was not just the Synthetic oil up to 2012/13, it was then with software on some 2013-2015, 

now this little issue that surely must have been down to a supplier of clutch packs if not a software issue.

 

Hopefully Skoda will just say in a press release what the small glitch was / is. Then no owner that has issues out of the manufacturers warranty should have a problem getting it fixed for free.

ŠKODA AUTO produces two-millionth DQ 200 dual-clutch transmission at Vrchlabí plant - ŠKODA Storyboard.mhtml

6 hours ago, vc-10 said:

I had a Polo rental with the 75PS engine a couple of years ago in Spain. It was.... slow. But it was fine for what it is.

 

It's a shame they didn't revise the 3-cylinder 1.2l 70PS engine as the entry-level option. Where it mattered it had more torque than the current 1.0l 75PS unit --- peak 112Nm vs 95Nm. Sure it feels nippy in the Citigo, but in the Fabia's got bigger wheels and around 150kg more metal and plastic... Does VAG even have anything petrol between 95Nm and 160Nm (1.0 TSI 95PS)?

Edited 6 May, 20188 yr by ettlz

I had a 2002 MK4 Polo with the old 3-cyl 1.2, it was a decent engine. Definitely more flexible for the weight of the car than the 1.0. Driven MK5 Polos with that engine too, and they felt better than the 1.0 did. Long gap between those drives though! 

 

The 1.0 had the 1.2 beat on fuel economy though, by a sizeable margin, and I'd imagine the same goes for emissions too. 

I have the 75bhp version in the estate and it's perfect for town driving ferrying the lad to nursery, my commute to work.

 

I find it sits quite high at nearly 4000rpm at 70mph and feel it could benefit from a extra cog, 60mph sounds nicer to sit at.

 

Apart from that it's a fun engine, (just come down from a 165bhp Astra, which was more of a comfy cruiser) need to work it hard to make progress but quite surprised how well it's doing.

 

Davy

14 minutes ago, vc-10 said:

The 1.0 had the 1.2 beat on fuel economy though, by a sizeable margin, and I'd imagine the same goes for emissions too. 

 

Yeah but the 1.2 sounded better

I had a 60PS S+ Hatch while my Roomster was in for a couple of days.  Initial impression as I left the dealership was that it was quite nippy (didn't know what engine I had at that point!).  Then I asked it to go up a hill, and accelerate please....  please........ PLEASE......  Is the handbrake on?  No! Is something stopping the throttle pedal?  No!  Only way to make any progress is to drop 2-3 gears and rev the nuts off it;  and that hits fuel economy VERY hard.  Liked the sound of the engine but it really was utterly gutless.  For any overtake you need to make an application in writing 3 days in advance.  Did a couple of hundred miles in it and that really was more than enough!  Looking at the official power and torque figures there is 3/5 of not very much at all difference between the 60 and 75PS versions - same torque and the latter needs 6200rpm to give max power so I can't believe the 75 is much better.

 

On one hill between Ripley in North Yorks and Fountains Abbey I was barely holding 25mph in 2nd gear with my foot to the floor.  That's with 2 adults and no luggage.  My 1.6TDi Roomster romps up that hill at 40 in 3rd with ooomph to spare.

 

The S+ has a great price, decent spec and is Incredibly economical  It is great around town but if you ever need to take it out on the open road then go for a TSi.  

 

Oh!  and if you ever come up behind a Fabia dawdling up a gentle incline don't get impatient, show a little sympathy - it's probably a 1.0 mpi !!

15 hours ago, eccleshill said:

The S+ has a great price, decent spec and is Incredibly economical  It is great around town but if you ever need to take it out on the open road then go for a TSi.  

 

This is very true. It's horses for courses- if you're commuting in stop-start traffic endlessly (like I am...) then the 1.0 NA engine is absolutely fine. It'll cope with the motorway if you need it to but it's definitely out of its element. The TSI meanwhile is a very versatile engine, with good fuel economy around town (although I'd expect the 1.0 to be better with the kind of driving I do) and the ability to deal with hills and motorways with a lot more aplomb. 

 

And yes, @ettlz, the old 1.2 tripple sounded great! Very characterful little thing. I miss my old Polo sometimes.

I missed out on the S+ model by a month! But not going to complain at 42mpg every tank!

 

Just wish mine had air con!

 

Davy

On 03/05/2018 at 17:01, horkin said:

 

I never had a problem with my DSG, best gearbox I have ever driven.

 

There are some very high mile one's about now too both dry and wet versions. Of course there's always going to be some with issues but VW have sold thousands and the only way a proper reliability figure could be derived at would be if the number sold was known and the number faulty too. That way you could arrive at a percentage of faulty ones and I suspect it would be minuscule.

 

Personally I would not include the recall for the oil change as a gearbox fault.

 

I'm certainly enjoying mine and hope to get a longer trip in it soon. I do like the manual 6 speed box.

 

Good luck with the repair work, let's know how you get on.

 

Harry.

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Hi mate, thought I'd say that I collected my car today having had the new clutches fitted. It runs a treat and is fully fixed. Skoda seem confident as do the two techs that worked on it that I won't get the issue again. It was great to be piloting this great machine again...love it! Harry, I was going to private message you but you haven't got it switched on in your account. Did you know it wasn't switched on or do you not want any pm's?

13 minutes ago, Estate Man said:

 

Hi mate, thought I'd say that I collected my car today having had the new clutches fitted. It runs a treat and is fully fixed. Skoda seem confident as do the two techs that worked on it that I won't get the issue again. It was great to be piloting this great machine again...love it! Harry, I was going to private message you but you haven't got it switched on in your account. Did you know it wasn't switched on or do you not want any pm's?

Glad you're back driving your lovely car and I'm sure you will be fine now. Didn't know my PM was switched off, I'll have a look, Thanks for that mate.

 

Harry