Hi, just wondering if anyone could offer me some advice or opinions on a slight issue

 

Just purchase a bluefin for my vr230 and everything seemed ok yesterday 

 

When I've been out in it today it goes ok and under reasonable acceleration in lower gears despite traction issues in need weather which isn't a surprise. When sitting at 70 on a dual carriageway with the revs at about 2700rpm ish when you put your foot down there's a slight audible rev and the rpm jumps straight to 3000 rpm or just over.

 

Questions is is this the beginning of a clutch problem or too much torque for the standard clutch etc 

 

Or is it an issue with the map itself 

 

The car has been owned since new in 2015 and has done 25k miles 

 

Thanks for any help 

Doesn’t sound good. 

 

First port of call I would say is reset the map with the bluefin. 

 

Then try and see if the problem persists. 

 

Does sound like clutch is wearing thin. 

Either the clutch beginning to slip or the increase in torque is causing your wheels to spin up at 70mph.

It would be interesting to see the torque curve of the new map to see where the peak is..... I wouldn't mind betting it's around 2700rpm

As suspected

 

The map is the bluefin one so power is less at around 280 and torque a little less at about 450nm 

 

I'd be surprised if the tyres were trying to spin at that sort of speed tho as they aren't all that old and are vredstein which seem to get decent reviews on here when I've looked 

 

Suppose that points towards a future clutch problem tho or at least the map exceeding what it's willing to take 

 

Having taken the car out not long after with the standard map loaded back on it drives ok regardless of gear and rpm and is fine at 70 in 6th accelerating with no jumps 

 

 

Just now, spanner28 said:

The map is the bluefin one so power is less at around 280 and torque a little less at about 450nm 

 

I'd be surprised if the tyres were trying to spin at that sort of speed tho as they aren't all that old and are vredstein which seem to get decent reviews on here when I've looked 

 

Suppose that points towards a future clutch problem tho or at least the map exceeding what it's willing to take 

 

Having taken the car out not long after with the standard map loaded back on it drives ok regardless of gear and rpm and is fine at 70 in 6th accelerating with no jumps 

 

 

 

That's the chart from the Blufin/Superchips site 

 

Sorry I missed the fact that the car dyno'd initially at 260bhp and not 230bhp

 

If that is a common think then it may well have a similar thing going on here so who knows what power it's running without having it tested. It seems strange that this only happens in 6th but In the wet I suppose it's hard to notice if it's being reined in by the traction control etc 

 

Its been driven conservatively most of its life and I never really hammer it from a standing start etc so if it is a clutch problem it would be annoying. My previous octavia 2 vrs ran a superchips bluefin for about 30k miles and never had a problem which was why i went with the same option again 

That's why my bet would be on the tyres spinning up a bit rather than the clutch, not sure what the weather's like in your part of the World but it's been damp here pretty much all day.

Even with half decent tyres on my old 2.0TDCi Focus you could get a bit of tyre slip accelerating hard into 3rd gear.

Maybe test it when the roads are completely dry and see if it does it again?

It certainly has been a crap day weather wise 

 

In lower gears the traction control light certainly flashes and you get a little bit of spin but I assume the traction control system limits the power and therefore it wouldn't be as noticeable 

 

This particular issue only happens in 6th at motorway speed when you accelerate hard where I would assume given the speed and gear etc you'd be pretty much getting fu'll power 

1 hour ago, Russ77 said:

Either the clutch beginning to slip or the increase in torque is causing your wheels to spin up at 70mph.

It would be interesting to see the torque curve of the new map to see where the peak is..... I wouldn't mind betting it's around 2700rpm

Could be the torque as my remapped car produces maximum at 2,800revs and at 467NM quite a bit higher than the standard 370NM.

I assume you've had no issues? Is yours running standard clutch etc 

16 minutes ago, spanner28 said:

I assume you've had no issues? Is yours running standard clutch etc 

Yeah standard clutch, don't do the Grand Prix traffic light thing but it can have the traction control light flashing away in 3rd gear at as little as 30mph even in the dry. As a result I would never boot it in the damp conditions we have had today, plus have to consider aquaplaning when total loss of grip could result in a nasty accident.

Yeah you have a point but the reason it stood out was more that at the 65 to 75 range (no standing water just a wet road) when accelerating to pass other cars is when it's done it, same acceleration in 3rd or 4th didn't seem to cause the same affect 

Any follow up on this - I'm considering Bluefin for my 230vRS because of the Warranty they offer, I had BF on my Mark II and was happy with the result? 

Just wanted to explain the possible issue with torque in higher gears.

 

In a high gear (compared to lower gears) less turning force (torque) is transmitted through to the wheels.  A bit like restricting the movement of the wheels.  This makes possible problems with clutches more apparent. 

I would be willing to bet the car has done a fair few high gear overtakes with heavy throttle.  Just because you have loads of torque doesn't mean you don't have to change down a gear. 

@Gti Jazz Blue The OP's car probably had an issue to start with.  You will probably be fine providing you have a good clutch pack.  I notice yo have a dsg.  These are know to handle greater torque.