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As above my lease Karoq is on 9800 miles. I’ve always been under the impression that it needs a servic at 10k.

 

The only thing is ive not had a warning light. All the cars I’ve owned in the last decade (or more) have had a service warning.

 

My question therefore is simply - do Skoda Koraqs have a service warning light?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Edited by Steve335

The Dealership that did the PDI must have left your car as it left the Factory and set on Variable / Flexible Servicing 

so at 18,500-20,000 miles / 24 months.

 

Meaning they never reset to Fixed Servicing which is 9,400 miles / 372 days.     

 Best look at the cars 'Service indicator' and see what it tells you.  Owners Manual tells you how to do that.

 

http://volkswagen.co.uk/owners/servicing/regimes

 

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Morning - thanks for the quick response. I’ll check it out. Thanks again! If 

As above, your car appears to be set to the variable service interval.

 

1) Fixed Service Interval - 12 months, or 10,000 miles, whichever is reached first.

 

2) Variable Service Intervals - Up to 24 months or 20,000 miles. The car decides for itself when it needs fresh oil based on a number of different factors incl. number of cold starts, journey length, ambient temperatures etc.

 

Fixed is best suited for low annual mileage (<15,000 miles), and / or short journey types, arduous conditions (hot - cold climates), regular towing etc.

Variable is better suited for high annual mileage, motorway driving, fleet ownership/minimal running costs.

 

If the car is a private purchase and you plan to keep it beyond the three year manufacturers warranty then fresh oil at least once a year (ideally just before winter) is the lifeblood of any engine or oil cooled turbo.

 

Check out the number of days / km's until your first service. If it's over 365 days or 10,000 miles (including those days / miles already covered) then you're on variable servicing....

 

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Thanks for the help on this earlier in the year. It was indeed set for variable servicing and now we are approaching the first service. 

 

If anyone is interested the current mileage is 17984 and it’s advising that an oil change is due in 700 miles which would make it ~ 18500 by the time it’s due. I’m on a lease which ends in 6 months so I’ll only be completing one service. 

 

The front tyres are due a change as well which is probably about right given that it’s an auto and the mileage.

57 minutes ago, Steve335 said:

Thanks for the help on this earlier in the year. It was indeed set for variable servicing and now we are approaching the first service. 

 

If anyone is interested the current mileage is 17984 and it’s advising that an oil change is due in 700 miles which would make it ~ 18500 by the time it’s due. I’m on a lease which ends in 6 months so I’ll only be completing one service. 

 

The front tyres are due a change as well which is probably about right given that it’s an auto and the mileage.

 

If you are quick, might be able to swap tyres front-back, as won’t wear as much on back.  Saves you having to buy 2 new tyres as can hand it back with original tyres.   Pop to a tyre dealer asap (at their quiet time), get them measured for depth, and provided got about 3mm min remaining get them to switch them.  £10 or £15 cash might be needed, but lot less than new tyre.

 

Would generally advise anyone on a lease to do the front-back switch at 14k miles rather than 18k miles as risk wearing at least one out if leave it too late.

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On 27/08/2019 at 18:39, SurreyJohn said:

 

If you are quick, might be able to swap tyres front-back, as won’t wear as much on back.  Saves you having to buy 2 new tyres as can hand it back with original tyres.   Pop to a tyre dealer asap (at their quiet time), get them measured for depth, and provided got about 3mm min remaining get them to switch them.  £10 or £15 cash might be needed, but lot less than new tyre.

 

Would generally advise anyone on a lease to do the front-back switch at 14k miles rather than 18k miles as risk wearing at least one out if leave it too late.

 

Thanks John - I’m afraid that ship has sailed now the front tyres won’t last another 6 months on the rear.

 

Funnily enough I did say to my wife a while ago do you remember in the old days when we used to swap front and back wheels to save costs and even out tyre wear. I should have been on the ball!

 

Tyre costs aren’t too bad for these 17 rims - under the terms of the lease I have to replace with the same spec. I can get Nexen slightly cheaper than the Bridgstone that are on it and I know Nexem are used on some VAG cats from new so it shouldn’t be an issue.

 

The next decision is whether or not I service it at a Skoda dealer. I don’t think I have to. Anyone else leading and care to share their service experiences?

 

Looking at Skoda’s fixed prices on their website it’s going to be £279.

Edited by Steve335

That price is for Major Services on cars 3-10 years old on fixed servicing. 

  So £289 @ 4 years, ***  2nd Major Service & 3rd Major Service.**

at just 2  years old & 20,000 miles that is a rip off.

 

Your car is getting a 2nd Fixed Service at 2 years old, but calling it a Major Service is crap that Dealers like.

 

You are Getting an Oil & Filter change and the same as the 1st service and a Pollen Filter as an Extra.

You are not getting Spark Plugs Replaced, not even checked, not getting the Air Filter Replaced, not even inspected.

 

So you can get a Main Dealer Service, but do not pay the ridiculous price to not get parts, not get the labour, not need to pay VAT on Parts & Labour not provided 

but yet they take the same £289 that would be charged if Plugs and Air Filter were supplied and fitted.

 

No wheels are being removed. So that is crap.

£289 makes that Free Wash & Vacuum very expensive.

 

**Be sure a body condition report is carried out and logged, and a road test. and you get the full report, play the Dealership if they want to get money for old rope for a Oil / Filter service, pollen filter and Health Check on a only 2 year old car.**

 

IMPORTANT. 

Dealerships should now be using VW508 / 509 sp 0w 20 FS IV oil on cars that left the factory with that oil.

As Skoda say, the emissions can be affected by using VW 504 / 507.  They were the ones that wanted the WLTP / RDE results.

"Slight deterioration in emission values." that is the same as possibly a slight increase in fuel consumption.

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Roottootemoot said:

That price is for Major Services on cars 3-10 years old on fixed servicing. 

  So £289 @ 4 years, ***  2nd Major Service & 3rd Major Service.**

at just 2  years old & 20,000 miles that is a rip off.

 

Your car is getting a 2nd Fixed Service at 2 years old, but calling it a Major Service is crap that Dealers like.

 

You are Getting an Oil & Filter change and the same as the 1st service and a Pollen Filter as an Extra.

You are not getting Spark Plugs Replaced, not even checked, not getting the Air Filter Replaced, not even inspected.

 

So you can get a Main Dealer Service, but do not pay the ridiculous price to not get parts, not get the labour, not need to pay VAT on Parts & Labour not provided 

but yet they take the same £289 that would be charged if Plugs and Air Filter were supplied and fitted.

 

No wheels are being removed. So that is crap.

£289 makes that Free Wash & Vacuum very expensive.

 

**Be sure a body condition report is carried out and logged, and a road test. and you get the full report, play the Dealership if they want to get money for old rope for a Oil / Filter service, pollen filter and Health Check on a only 2 year old car.**

 

 

 

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Thanks for the info - I’ll ring the dealer on Monday for alternatives. I didn’t realise that those costs were for older vehicles.

 

I am looking forward to the wash and vac though!

 

 

Edited by Steve335

If i was you i would wash it before taking in and check the wheel rims so you know if damage is done, 

they are supposed to check the car as you hand in the keys.

 

I would say 'do not wash, just do the Body Inspection and report and Vacuum the car'.  If you like your paint work.

 

I doubt they will agree that your 2nd Fixed Service should not be £289.  But just tell them why it should not be unless they put in new Spark Plugs & an Air Filter, 

or they can delete that costs.

Tell them the Washer Fluid is full, and leave it, you are not paying for that.  Be sure it is full.

 

Tell them what tyre pressures you want and check them after the service. 

Check the Coolant Level and the Oil level when cold when you collect the car, and inspect your wheel rims.

 

They are professionals, so keep them on their toes. 

 

Where does it seem like sensible that they do not supply the £50 plus RRP Spark Plugs & £16 Plus RRP Air filter so they are in the Parts Department 

yet the bill is £289.

 

They are making an extra £50 plus on some services and still making money on those that get the parts and somehow HMRC / us are not getting the same VAT into the treasury.

Seems like taking money by false pretences.

But then maybe a Car needs 4.6 litres of oil and 4 spark plugs and yet a Citigo needs just 3 plugs and less oil and a cheaper air filter and they also are charged £289 or more.

 

All a con, or is it a bargain for bigger cars / engines?

Edited by Roottootemoot

Air Con Service not required,

and Oil Flush or Fuel Cleaner not required, this is Up-Selling.

The price of long-life services are different to those for minor / major. And good luck finding out what a 'long-life' service entails because the half-dozen or so dealers I contacted all came up with different answers.Of course that's true for anything service or maintenence related with VAG products.

 

I subscribe to the variable service regime on both my SEAT and Skoda. You need to contact the dealers and ask for the long-life price as they are not published. Up here in central Scotland, a long-life service on my 1.4tsi Skoda was anywhere between £210 and £240. Part of that service was the pollen filter which I asked NOT to be replaced, that brought the price down to £168. You can buy a filter for £9 and it takes less than a minute to replace yourself  ( if you know how to easily remove glovebox and remember to keep the receipt). So in total say £180.  No Independent could match that price so no brainer going to Skoda - a main dealer service is worth it in my opinion, especially if at some time in the future you're looking for goodwill.

 

NB:  I believe all VAG products are delivered to the dealer with variable servicing enabled from the factory and it's up to the dealer whether or not they change. Of course any half decent dealer should be asking the customer  how the car will be driven / which service regime they wish to subscribe to and set it accordingly. No VAG dealer has ever asked me this and all my Audi's, VW's and my Skoda were left on 'variable'. I did have to return to SEAT tho because they changed the regime to 'fixed' at the PDI when I wanted it left on 'long-life'. Their excuse was that only leased cars are eligible for long-life servicing, which of course is complete nonsense. Servicing is based on the type of driving the car is subjected to, not the chosen method of payment.

 

 

Edited by Guest

It is not up to the Dealership / Dealership Technician to change to Fixed Servicing from the Variable without asking the Buyer or person leasing.

 

They do it as they might want and have no right to.

 

If you sign up to a Service Plan which is Fixed Servicing then the change is required, and some Lease Agreements or Fleet Vehicles require the change, 

other wise the Owner / Driver, person getting the car should be asked what they want, 

Variable / Flexible left as is or changed to Fixed Servicing.

Interesting thread. I'm 'old school' and have always had a service done every 10000 miles or twelve months, whichever came first, albeit until the K arrived, I had diesel engines. I'll stick to my rule because, although current servicing relies on computer diagnostics rather than visual checks, I like the vehicle to be checked once a year.  Plus any non-serious recalls are fixed. Also, at our current annual mileage, the car wouldn't be checked for nearly three years on variable servicing.  Another related point is that I have all-seasons tyres on separate alloy rims, so every six months, I get to check the condition of the inner face of the tyres, which can be damaged by speed bumps, if they are 'straddled', plus I can remove flints from the treads. I also dip the oil after the service to check that it's clean and full. A friend of my wife had a service done and they forgot to replace the oil result: a new engine! I've also heard of people putting a mark on the oil filter (eg UV marker) to check it has been changed.

3 hours ago, Steve335 said:

 

Thanks John - I’m afraid that ship has sailed now the front tyres won’t last another 6 months on the rear.

 

Funnily enough I did say to my wife a while ago do you remember in the old days when we used to swap front and back wheels to save costs and even out tyre wear. I should have been on the ball!

 

Tyre costs aren’t too bad for these 17 rims - under the terms of the lease I have to replace with the same spec. I can get Nexen slightly cheaper than the Bridgstone that are on it and I know Nexem are used on some VAG cats from new so it shouldn’t be an issue.

 

The next decision is whether or not I service it at a Skoda dealer. I don’t think I have to. Anyone else leading and care to share their service experiences?

 

Looking at Skoda’s fixed prices on their website it’s going to be £279.

 

Be careful changing tyre types because the condition rules have been updated, see page 17 of link, the blue box requires them to be same class now

 

https://issuu.com/bfwsn67/docs/cars_fw_t_fleet_alliance?e=2001091/40087681

 

If drivers are never checking their own cars components, fluids etc then going 2 years from a PDI till a Service is just ridiculous, even 12 months is,

as is Lights out of alignment from the factory to the PDI and not picked up on in the UK until the MOT 3 years on.

http://volkswagen.co.uk/owners/servicing/regimes

 

 

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