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I've just bought my yeti I love the car but my kneck doesn't every time I go out in it get a pain in the kneck has any one else had that problem

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Is that to do with the seat / driving position, heater / ventilation / draft or the suspension?

 

So what Yeti, what age / miles, what wheels and tyres are fitted, and at what pressures etc.

All that can make a difference.

Maybe it is old / worn suspension fitted, or not OEM but no idea without some information.

 

EDIT.

Sorry i never noticed the title 'Hard Ride' when i read your post where originally posted. So Suspension or tyres.

Edited by Skoffski

What size wheels, which tyres?

On my Yeti with 17" wheels there is a noticeable difference in stiffness/hardness between "full load" tyre pressures and "normal load" tyre pressures. Worth checking.

Note to self: must reduce tyre pressures tomorrow no towing/heavy loads this week ;)

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I'm not sure what size wheels they are I will look tomorrow it's 2014 elegance only done 30000

Can you change the tyre  miles pressure I thought it would come up on the dashboard saying low I do know the tires are all weather I don't know if that will make it hard

You can change pressure but you will have to reset the TPS after any changes.

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I will try that tomorrow what pressure do you recommend

@Derek26  Does that mean you have not checked or set the tyre pressures and just trusted you and others safety to An-Other, & who knows who that is?

Inside the fuel flap should be a handy guide to give different wheel/tyre size options and load differences number of passengers with varied recommended tyre pressures. Nornally in winter run wife's Karoq slightly lower than in summer to improve low temperature grip across the tyre. Warmer summer temps usually increase tyre pressures which can make the ride less comfortable however.:biggrin:

Normal 17" Yeti pressures are 2.2 bar all round, my normal pressures are 2.3bar all round but when towing and laden I go to 2.3bar fronts and 3.0bar rears.

 

ETA there is I believe the option to go up to 2.5bar all round to get better fuel economy.

 

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I only bought it on Friday I will check my pressure tomorrow thanks for all your help:D

The Yeti has fairly "strong" damper settings to control pitch and bounce, and stiff anti-roll bar settings to resist roll despite a centre of gravity higher than that of a lower slung hatchback e.g. a Golf.  The fundamental ride quality is therefore what I would call "jostling" on poor roads, and never really smooths out even on a motorway.  I have found that Tyres and their pressure do have some effect on the secondary ride over sharp bumps and dips, but don't change the fundamental characteristics.

 

In our household we have the Yeti (Currently on Winter Tyres at 32 PSI) , an MX5, a Fiat Ducato LWB van and a 1936 Austin Seven.  On some of our local country roads which are smooth at the crown but undulating at the sides the Yeti is surprisingly the least comfortable of these four vehicles, with side-to-side rocking that can be a bit tiresome on the neck muscles.  Adding a lot of weight, like 3 passengers and luggage, seems to help a little bit.  I suspect that heavier Diesel and 4x4 models also ride a tad better.

 

I guess there is a fundamental compromise between ride and handling (at least for "normal" spring and fixed damper setups), and VAG choose to bias their cars more towards agile handling.  However, I'm not sure similar SUV type vehicles from other makers are very much different.

Strangely having checked the recommended tyre pressures for our Karoq (similar ride height to the Yeti) the lower spec cars with 16" and 17" alloys run 2.2bar pressures but our 18" alloy SEL model runs suggested 2.1bar which is surprising, you would think it would be higher not lower.:doh:

There has been considerable debate over the years on the merits of 16” versus 17” wheels. Originally lower spec Yeti’s were supplied with 16” wheels with 60 profile tyres and this combination provided a much smoother ride than the 17” wheels with lower profile tyres - some would debate that but from personal experience I can attest that 16” wheels with 60 profile tyres do provide a smoother ride - basically a deeper sidewall provides more absorbency than a lower profile tyre. Anyway I have bought two Yeti’s from new and spec’d both with 16” wheels as a special factory order by going through Skoda(UK) direct and can’t complain at all about the ride. Inevitably it is stiffer than many conventional saloons but it doesn’t have that knobbly feel you get with 17” wheels., Only way to tell is to drive 16” and 17” shod Yeti’s back to back - then you will see what I mean.

In your case as you have 17” wheels then if you need new tyres I believe that Michelin Crossclimate tyres are reputed to provide a smoother ride than other 17” tyres. 

First Yeti had 17"

Second Greenline had 16" as standard.

Current car had 17" as standard again, but currently running 16" winter tyres and wheels.

 

The difference is quite significant and I much prefer the car on 16" wheels, the ride is much less bumpy.

 

I gather that in many markets the car comes as standard on 16", but we are obsessed with low profile in this country and hence are given little option but to suffer the harsh ride. I know that over the years several people went over the head of Skoda UK and once they had ordered the car got the facory to fit 16" non standard for UK wheels.

 

As an aside, some years ago my car was in for warranty work, not a Yeti, and I was given a sporty golf hire car to use for a few days. They thought I would love it, but it was one of the most uncomfortable cars I have ever had the misfortune to drive with tyres that were effectively thin skins of rubber on huge alloys!

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3 minutes ago, kenfowler3966 said:

First Yeti had 17"

Second Greenline had 16" as standard.

Current car had 17" as standard again, but currently running 16" winter tyres and wheels.

 

The difference is quite significant and I much prefer the car on 16" wheels, the ride is much less bumpy.

 

I gather that in many markets the car comes as standard on 16", but we are obsessed with low profile in this country and hence are given little option but to suffer the harsh ride. I know that over the years several people went over the head of Skoda UK and once they had ordered the car got the facory to fit 16" non standard for UK wheels.

 

As an aside, some years ago my car was in for warranty work, not a Yeti, and I was given a sporty golf hire car to use for a few days. They thought I would love it, but it was one of the most uncomfortable cars I have ever had the misfortune to drive with tyres that were effectively thin skins of rubber on huge alloys!

Exactly - and why is it drivers/manufacturers in the UK are obsessed with lower and lower profile tyres just as our road surfaces are getting worse and worse! Seems counterintuitive to me - Oh roads are so potholed I must take the ride even worse by fitting lower profile tyres so that I can enjoy spending hard earned money on replacing bent and broken wheels and punctured tyres!!!! Go figure.

The ride is so much better on 16" winter wheels and the car looks quite purposeful with black steel rims. I am seriously considering another set of 16" black alloy rims with summer tyres on once I have worn out the original tyres. I can save the original alloys for putting back on if it is ever sold, or may even sell them.

16 hours ago, kenfowler3966 said:

..... I know that over the years several people went over the head of Skoda UK and once they had ordered the car got the facory to fit 16" non standard for UK wheels....

 

The UK18"SpecialBuildClub: 

A few of us still around and in Yetis :)

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Yes I found out mine are 17.inch I tried to lower the air pressure but that was ,30.pounds so I will have to see how things work out

Yes, on my second 16” shod Yeti, both bought with intervention of Skoda(UK) to change dealers order on the factory from 17” to 16” wheels. Skoda(UK) very helpful both times and they were only too happy to intervene and change the order at the factory. They even gave me a choice of which style 16” wheel I wanted - also I said I would prefer Goodyear Efficientgrip tyres, they said they would see if factory could fit them and when I went to pick it up from Lincoln found it had efficient grips as factory supplied. Sales Manager told me that Skoda(UK) had asked him to check the tyres and to change them to Efficientgrip if they were delivered with anything else. This is my third Skoda and the customer service has been superb with all three so guess what make my next make of car will be?

1 hour ago, Derek26 said:

Yes I found out mine are 17.inch I tried to lower the air pressure but that was ,30.pounds so I will have to see how things work out

Recommended pressure by Skoda is 2.2 bar or 32psi. I believe that to be a minimum.

Just pull up the plastic concertina bellows on the front shocks and look if you can see any transport blocks which a brightly coloured plastic donut affair slipped onto the shocker shaft. 

 

Contrary to what the dealer says, it would be impossible for these to simply disappear over time as the bellows would hold them in.

 

I don't know where the transport blocks are on the back suspension if fitted at all.

35 minutes ago, idleness said:

Recommended pressure by Skoda is 2.2 bar or 32psi. I believe that to be a minimum.

Actually being pedantic but 2.2bar is precisely 30.8lb per sq.in.:devil:

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Or not.

1 minute ago, shyVRS245 said:

Actually being pedantic but 2.2bar is precisely 30.8lb per sq.in.:devil:

I only work in bar these days and to convert it to psi I just typed "2.2bar in psi " into google and it came back with 31.9083 hence I said 32 ;)

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