https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/toyota-ramp-ev-plans-six-global-models

 

 

 

 

Real World now.

Fat 'TOYOTA' EV.s. & Skoda.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 22 June, 20232 yr by toot

Toyota ramping up their EV plan

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4 years later 

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1 passenger vehicle with really bad efficiency and range, poor software. Good build quality though. 

 

"Look at solid state batteries, it's coming soon™. Let's keep waiting and buy our cars where 100% of its energy comes from fossil fuel" 

On 07/06/2019 at 14:29, vrskeith said:

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/toyota-ramp-ev-plans-six-global-models

 

 

Toyota has become a laughing stock with those who look closely at the disruption of good EVs hitting the car market and then Toyota (Subaru) offering in that space.

 

The launch of the BZ4X was one of the most noteworthy disasters of all car launches in the last few years.  The battery range was much less than published as well as recharging issues as mentioned in the video below.  It was so bad, ie as if the car was actually a beta launch, Toyota rewrote the Battery Management Software and effectively relaunched the car after a few weeks.  They "released"  battery capacity buffering from the car and got closer to the actual range published but damaged was done to their reputation. 

 

Toyota are a massive company with huge resources but like the other Japanese car companies they just do not seem to get the transformation to EVs.  I would not buy shares in any Japaneses car company until the look like they are understanding what the Chinese seem to already get. 

 

Japan has wonderful people but it looks like the head bird of the flying geese has lost its way sadly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_geese_paradigm

 

  

On 22/06/2023 at 08:26, toot said:

 

Do not like this type of review.  Give me Bjorn Nyland everytime, even Toyota listen to him rather than this lightweight review above.

 

 

1 hour ago, lol-lol said:

Toyota has become a laughing stock with those who look closely at the disruption of good EVs hitting the car market

 

They wont be too bothered about being the laughing stock of a small group of anorak fanboys.

 

Remember all the derision about Japanese motorcycles and cars in the 70's, Jap Crap etc? They were the laughing stock of the ignorant then but who had the last laugh?

2 hours ago, J.R. said:

They wont be too bothered about being the laughing stock of a small group of anorak fanboys.

Remember all the derision about Japanese motorcycles and cars in the 70's, Jap Crap etc? They were the laughing stock of the ignorant then but who had the last laugh?

 

Oh I was there, Japanese versus British and the Japanese were smart ie making speedometers that over read by 10% rather than were built to be accurate like British one. Great way to sell bike to muppets who believe the mis-information that their inaccurate instrumentation tells them. 

 

Had many Japanese bikes from Kwacker H1, Honda CB900s, Yamaha XJs to numerous to mention, Suzukis numbering well in to double figures, mostly proddy tuned 250 two strokes yet the most memorable bike I can recall is a ex-police Norton Commando 750, Paul Dunstall tuned.  Also liked my Enfield Bullet and must go and try one of the newer ones as getting good revues and so much better value than Japanese offerings.

 

Currently have a tracer 700 but looking to go electric with that too ASAP.   The Chinese will dominate the electric bike market soon too, wonder why no TESLA motorcycle come to think of it, come on Elon !

 

Edited 23 June, 20232 yr by lol-lol

8 minutes ago, J.R. said:

 

They wont be too bothered about being the laughing stock of a small group of anorak fanboys.....

 

They will be bothered by their tumbling sales and disappearing of profit in the world biggest car market ie China, which they were doing well at until last year.

Japanese auto firms are being marginalised in sales terms all over the world, China, Europe US, their products tumbling down the sales charts, bankruptcy looming for many of their franchises in several countries, fields full of unsold product which most people do not want any more.

 

Love much of the Japanese product of the last decade to three.  Daughter's man has a GT86, was talking to him about getting a fun run around, a square shaped MR2 or maybe a RX8, absolute beauty but now just part of history.  They need to be looking at the Cyberstar, Polestar, Volvo, BYD and TESLA and wake up and smell the coffee, or look at the market and see what is selling ie not the Camry any more but cars like the Model Y.

  

 

Toyota and Hyundai caught out by UK Advertising Agency for mis-informing UK consumers who now have to stop their adverts and correct their websites........

 

 

 

So he is misinforming. 

It is not the UK Government, or a law.  The ASA is not Government funded it is self regulating advertising in the UK.

Just a small point but one that someone making a video should find out.