I'm getting misleading information. On one hand, I'm told the 7 speed DSG is a dry clutch that is sealed for life and requires no maintenance. On the other hand, I'm told I have to change the oil every 40,000 miles.

 

Which is it?

 

thanks

DQ200 7 speed dry clutch on smaller low torque engines is 'sealed for life'. This is arguably not a great idea and they can be serviced but no official schedule. 

 

DQ380 7 speed wet clutch as found on newer vRS for example, is officially 80,000 intervals according to Skoda but many of us are untrusting and doing them at 40,000 anyway. 

 

DQ250 6 speed wet clutch are 40,000 intervals. 

Well I know I have a 7 speed DSG - it changes up past 6 to 7 so I've worked that much out. But my local dealer told me it needs a DSG oil change at 40,000 miles! Yet stuff I'd read online said it was sealed for life and didn't require servicing.

 

Define sealed for life though.  I had a Kia that had a sealed for life manual gearbox, but it still had a drain and fill plug and I still changed it at 60,000 miles. Can it be done even if it doesn't need to be done?

Edited 14 October, 20196 yr by NikTheGeek

@NikTheGeek

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Who is telling you 40,000 miles for a DQ200 7speed dry, and are they willing to do it.

For how much?

 

Do they actually know there are 2 oils unlike Wet Clutch DSG's.

 

Sealed for life but the MCU oil or the box oil can or both, 

not by someone that does not know their arse from elbow though.

 

EDIT,

Since you posted that your Dealer told you, was that some clerical person on a Service Desk rather than the Technician from the Workshop.?

Edited 14 October, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot

Skoda Plymouth. £200ish from memory. They do know my registration but maybe they haven't actually checked it's a 7 speed DSG rather than a 6 speed. I asked the question if it needed servicing, I didn't say which it was when I asked - I assumed they would check before answering - maybe not...

Edited 14 October, 20196 yr by NikTheGeek

There are drain plugs.

The Oils can be changed. 

Plenty are choosing to have the oils changed, even more Dealerships say it can not be even though DQ200's have had a World Wide Recall / European Service Campaign where they changed oil.

 

There are threads here where members do it them selves.  No Manufacturers Schedule or Guidelines to have it done though.

Assume nothing other than someone trained on the phone and computers at Skoda Dealerships knows little about cars, 

they are selected as being clueless on cars.

If they have much of a clue they go to work in places where their talents suit.

3 minutes ago, NikTheGeek said:

Skoda Plymouth. £200ish from memory. They do know my registration but maybe they haven't actually checked it's a 7 speed DSG rather than a 6 speed. I asked the question if it needed servicing, I didn't say which it was when I asked - I assumed they would check before answering - maybe not...

They're probably just assuming, pretty much every other type of DSG since 2003 has had a 40,000 mile interval so many people just think DSG = 40,000.

@Audi Dealerships with someone clueless on the phone or at the desk might well say that the same DQ200 7 speed twin dry clutch DSG's which are called a S-tronic like their other DSG's and they will tell you that @ 38,000 miles an oil change is due.

(it says so on the computer so it must be right...)

 

They can call a TSI a TFSI and charge more for the 'f'.

Edited 14 October, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot

1 hour ago, NikTheGeek said:

Skoda Plymouth. £200ish from memory. They do know my registration but maybe they haven't actually checked it's a 7 speed DSG rather than a 6 speed. I asked the question if it needed servicing, I didn't say which it was when I asked - I assumed they would check before answering - maybe not...

 

You have a 1.6TDi which 100% without any doubt has a DQ200 7 speed dry clutch DSG.

 

It does not require an oil change at 40k miles.

I know mine is DQ200 and sealed for life but it will get an oil/fluid change at around 40k, as the box will benefit from it, if you look after your vehicle it will look after you, and yes when my current warranty is up for renewal in a years time i will make the new one will cover all aspects of the DSG gearbox.

Unfortunately the DQ200 has numerous failure modes but non are related to oil contamination as long as it's not one involved in the mineral/sythentic conductivity fiasco.

 

Gear wear is the least of your worries with a DQ200.

Edited 14 October, 20196 yr by logiclee

1 hour ago, Ju1ian1001 said:

I know mine is DQ200 and sealed for life but it will get an oil/fluid change at around 40k, as the box will benefit from it, if you look after your vehicle it will look after you, and yes when my current warranty is up for renewal in a years time i will make the new one will cover all aspects of the DSG gearbox

Looking after your car is a valid point but I can't see the point in changing the oil in a DQ200 when the manufacturer advices it isn't necessary. The gearbox is completely separate from the clutches. DQ250 and higher with the wet clutches yes.

Can you get warranty on a item that wears, a consumable item like clutches on a DSG box. When I enquired a few years back on a used Passat  the VAG dealer said yes the Gearbox is but not the clutches. 

Not neccessary to change.

But then those that actually look and own cars and have them as keepers might know different from some people in car dealerships that are not your friend.

 

Who would have thought that you could not trust VW or employees or franchised dealership staff to know their stuff about the cars they sell

& if they do know are they going to go against the official line..

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/471908-dsg-box-oil

 

 

 

Edited 14 October, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot

VW will tell you for a decade about them producing a New Electric Micro Bus or sometime maybe millions of EV's.

 

If the story is about cars you might have bought and that you might have to pay thousands to fix because out of warranty or even with a VW Group extended warranty dont expect VW to be making you aware the fault was with them and components.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/473186-another-dsg-recall

 

I have this box on mine.. its a 2015 octavia and its done 200k as a taxi.

Its a sealed for life unit and they use a mineral oil. 

Don't listen to anyone who says they should be changed. Its fine 🙂 

The DQ200 DSG is sealed for life, and there are 2 oils. in the box and in the MCU.

No servicing recommendations, guidelines or schedules and no need to change the oil.

 

But some do anyway, because they are sealed, but not for life.  

On 04/09/2022 at 15:52, toot said:

The DQ200 DSG is sealed for life, and there are 2 oils. in the box and in the MCU.

No servicing recommendations, guidelines or schedules and no need to change the oil.

 

But some do anyway, because they are sealed, but not for life.  

 

Hello Toot

 

Hope you are ok.

Just wanted to ask if you could perhaps help me in descifring if my skoda rapid 2016 dsg is a dry clutch gearbox. I'm not sure if I need a oil change for the gearbox or not.

I've attached the details below. From my limited understanding I belive that the gearbox code is RRP but have no clue what that means.

I would realy apreciate if you could enlighten me on this matter.

Thank you

I have the same box, it's sealed for life. Personally I wouldn't change it, you have a taxi driver on here that stated he's covered 200k without an oil change. 

Thank you for the answer 

Thought I’d share my worthless opinion and experience, I have a 2018 Octavia 1.6tdi with the dq200 dsg, had since 30k from Skoda now nudging 100k. Id go with what the taxi driver said, I did change mine very recently and tbh it looked exactly the same as the stuff I put back in, and what a job that was seriously I just wouldn’t bother it takes hours to refill via the breather, especially the mechatronics. I get my car serviced generally at a professional engine and gearbox rebuilders and they said new fluid can be good in any gearbox (with certain limitations) but where there is no clutch pack(s) immersed in oil there is little to no risk of contamination and even the mechatronics oil although hydraulic and therefore under pressure it’s not under pressure as say in a hydraulic ram. I won’t be doing it again just an utter pain and no appreciable benefit. I’ve just started saving the 4k for when it inevitably goes bang and needs replacing, would I have another, absolutely it’s a great gearbox.