Hi all

 

Im trying to code mirror indicator light to be always on when driving but i couldn't do it. I do it before with success on vw glof mk7 and polo 6C. But on Octavia MK3 i think it's a little bit tricky. It suppose to be light number 16 and 17 to be assigned to mirror indicator but on Octavia i think it's deferent. Any help ?

I had read this wasn’t possible. I have seen it on the Polo but not a Golf (or any Golf based car). 

Im sure there is a solution for that. I see some Octavia mk3 in the streets do ot already. But maybe it's hard wired from front blinkers. I did it in most of vw and seat. But i couldn't do ot on any octavia.

2 minutes ago, Seeyou33 said:

Im sure there is a solution for that. I see some Octavia mk3 in the streets do ot already. But maybe it's hard wired from front blinkers. I did it in most of vw and seat. But i couldn't do ot on any octavia.

Do you have a link or something to the coding for the Golf? I might have a play about next weekend and use that as a starting point. 

What would the legality be out of interest? I know you can have side markers as trailers do. Just curious...

I'm imagining a situation where someone is at a T-junction, waiting to turn right, and a car heading towards them, also from the right, with it's headlights masking the front indicator.

 

If the driver saw the LED mirror in the indicator illuminated, mistook it for a left sided signal and pulled out into the path of the other car.

 

What is behind the desire to illuminate the indicator in the mirror? If it's simply to look cool, please reconsider.

 

On vehicles where the amber side markers are factory fitted, they're always close to the front headlight and low down, not on the mirror where everyone expects the direction indicator to be. It's an accident waiting to happen.

 

Honda Civic...

 

 

Jeep Renegade...

 

 

BMW 5 Series

 

 

Etc.

 

Edited 8 November, 20196 yr by silver1011

If you are driving in the UK and want to permanently light up the indicators you seriously need to have a word with yourself.

 

I cant see it passing an MOT so its obviously not a very good idea

Edited 8 November, 20196 yr by SuperbTWM

I'd see this and think the car had an electrical fault. Each to their own though! 

7 hours ago, SC03OTT said:

Do you have a link or something to the coding for the Golf? I might have a play about next weekend and use that as a starting point. 

Contact me on Skype. I can help you with that. 

 

Skype: mohammed.saqer

4 hours ago, silver1011 said:

I'm imagining a situation where someone is at a T-junction, waiting to turn right, and a car heading towards them, also from the right, with it's headlights masking the front indicator.

 

If the driver saw the LED mirror in the indicator illuminated, mistook it for a left sided signal and pulled out into the path of the other car.

 

What is behind the desire to illuminate the indicator in the mirror? If it's simply to look cool, please reconsider.

 

On vehicles where the amber side markers are factory fitted, they're always close to the front headlight and low down, not on the mirror where everyone expects the direction indicator to be. It's an accident waiting to happen.

 

Honda Civic...

 

 

Jeep Renegade...

 

 

BMW 5 Series

 

 

Etc.

 

 

You are totally right. But in some countries people will not understand what you are saying. Some people are welling to pay in order make there cars looks cooler than the others. In my country everyone is making it. Even if they have to do it by wiring.

 

10 hours ago, Seeyou33 said:

Some people are welling to pay in order make there cars looks cooler than the others.

Even if it increases the chance of having an accident?

I had a look at the legislation and quickly went cross eyed. 
 

As ever, topics like this attract opinion and rarely fact.   Not sure I’m buying the accident waiting to happen.  There is a generation of Ford Transit where the side indicator repeater is also used as a side marker, but dimmed and there doesn’t seem to be a huge issue with masses of people pulling out in front of them. 
 

Now, that is a larger commercial vehicle and I have no doubt the rules will be different to passenger cars. 
 

Anyway. Let the hysteria resume.

It's not hysteria - it's people just doing dumb things to their cars in an effort to look cool (which they never do) but increase, no matter how small that increase, the possibility of an accident.

Of course having indicators or repeaters constantly illuminated in a country where cars simply don't have this is going to increase the possibility of an accident.

If people see amber on a vehicle then they are going to immediately assume turn signal.

Sure, they should check, double-check - but that isn't the point, you're simply making it more difficult for other drivers.

 

This reminds me of the people who used to "smoke" rear lights as much as possible, yet again in some vain effort to look cool, but simply achieving that "tw*t look" - the end result being you could hardly see their rear lights, especially brake lights.

Once again, yes, we're all supposed to be careful on the roads, but why make things difficult for other drivers.

 

If constant on orange markers on vehicles made then safer, then they would have already been introduced - the government is always looking to introduce something in an effort to combat accidents and deaths on the road.

They do already exist on vehicles just now though, even in the UK. 
 

I’m just playing devils advocate here btw. 

It doesn't make any sense in the UK, certainly wouldn't look cool in the UK, and might not pass an MOT?

 

But the OP seems to state he isn't in the UK.......

 

Even elsewhere in Europe they drive around up to 3 up on scooters, ride with flip flops, t shirt & shorts, everybody drives whilst on the phone and often drive like loons ( try pulling out of Naples airport in a hire car!)

 

Perhaps we have to accept that maybe wherever the OP is, in the grand scheme of things, this won't make much difference !

3 hours ago, SC03OTT said:

They do already exist on vehicles just now though, even in the UK.

They ARE required for vehicles over 6m in length.

Edited 9 November, 20196 yr by PetrolDave

52 minutes ago, Phil245 said:

Even elsewhere in Europe they drive around up to 3 up on scooters, ride with flip flops, t shirt & shorts, everybody drives whilst on the phone and often drive like loons ( try pulling out of Naples airport in a hire car!)

 

Naples? Ha, Naples is for newbies. Now Malta, that's fun....  

7 hours ago, SC03OTT said:

There is a generation of Ford Transit where the side indicator repeater is also used as a side marker, but dimmed and there doesn’t seem to be a huge issue with masses of people pulling out in front of them. 

 

The side repeaters on some wide bodied versions of the previous Ford Transit did indeed have amber repeaters that doubled up as marker lights, but they're not integrated into the door mirrors...

 

 

The only amber lights on door mirrors are repeaters and repeaters only as far as I know.

Commercials have yellow side markers. The regs are different.

Anyway. Regardless of safety concerns. Let's talk a little technical. Why all MQB cars you can paly with the mirror Indicator except skoda. This is what's odd to me. 

European type approval requires all forward facing lights other than Indicators to be white. Indicators must be amber and flash at the prescribed rate. Means you shouldn’t fiddle with North American light settings or you can be pulled by the feds for non conformance. 

Edited 9 November, 20196 yr by BigEjit

11 hours ago, Seeyou33 said:

Anyway. Regardless of safety concerns. Let's talk a little technical. Why all MQB cars you can paly with the mirror Indicator except skoda. This is what's odd to me. 

Different front door control modules and wiring.

15 hours ago, logiclee said:

Commercials have yellow side markers. The regs are different.

Orange or Amber side markers on vehicles over 6 meters in length and 3 tonne in weight., yellow is not allowed anymore even on french cars made after a certain date (of which i can't remember) Yellow headlights are not allowed. Yellow lighting is not legal in mainland europe either. 

 

In the U.K the side repeaters built into mirrors are not allowed to be lit all the time, the must remain unlit untill used as intended, but each european state has it's own rules so where the O.P is it might legal (if indeed he resides in europe)

18 hours ago, BigEjit said:

European type approval requires all forward facing lights other than Indicators to be white. Indicators must be amber and flash at the prescribed rate. Means you shouldn’t fiddle with North American light settings or you can be pulled by the feds for non conformance. 

 

UK lighting regs only forbid red lights to the front and anything other than red lights at the rear apart from indicators and reversing lamps. The police might well pull you for a static blue LED light on the front of your car, but its not illegal. Neither is mocking up your car to look like a police car!

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/regulation/11/made