As per the title. To be honest, only time I saw Scouts were in the showroom.

 

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/skoda-axes-karoq-scout-kodiaq-scout-and-kamiq-diesels

 

 

Good news for 19 plate scouts.. Residuals will be held up by this going forward. Might have to get one now.. Was tempted by an sel but this may swing it.. 

you can still get a scout but it's skoda uk / dealer stock only 

I had the loan of a Karoq 2L diesel Scout for about 6 weeks while my 'dying at junctions' 1.5 SEL was taken off the road for being too hot to handle ........ it wanted to kill me. I was slightly put off by the Scout's 'tart's handbag' decor, but it was a lovely smooth drive. I was especially impressed with its auto-dipping headlights - they were far more effective than I ever dreamed they could be. My dealer would have done me a deal with it but, to be honest, I don't do the mileage to justify a diesel - otherwise, I would have been very tempted.

The May price list has a new edition (19th May) which confirms the Scout is now from stock only, as are Karoqs with the 1.6TDI engine and a manual gearbox. (1.6TDIs with DSG are still listed).

 

Chris

4 hours ago, benbfc12 said:

Good news for 19 plate scouts.. Residuals will be held up by this going forward. Might have to get one now.. Was tempted by an sel but this may swing it.. 

 

Ha ha.  The reason it's been dropped is because hardly anyone bought it so no quite sure the logic of residuals being held up.

 

Having looked at it in the showroom ( every showroom I visited seemed to have a Scout around ), it seemed an odd mix. It was well spec'd with sunroof and LED interior lights making it a tad luxury but then missed out on things like higher end infotainment. And only God knows why their 'rough and ready' version would have a piece of fake wooden trim. The same engine / drivetrain combo was available in Edition format for much the same money but with a much higher spec.

 

If you purchased it with metallic paint ( which most people do ), a 2.0tdi Scout 4x4 DSG costs £35980.  Same car in Edition form costs £36170 but additionally gives you leather electric driving seat  ( £2600 option on Scout ), lane assist + blind spot detect ( £930 option on Scout  ), 9.2" Columbus ( £1535 option on Scout ) and traffic sign recognition ( £75 ).

 

To me at least, the Karoq Scout represented such poor value for money.

Edited 29 May, 20206 yr by Guest

But no one pays list! Just done some calling around.. Pre reg scout with 2000 extras on board.. 6 months old 24.5k... Circa 13k saving on list for a well specced karoq!.. Yes please 

Best car I ever owned was an Octavia Scout, petrol engine model. If the Karoq Scout had had a petrol variant, I would have purchased that instead of the Edition.

1 hour ago, benbfc12 said:

But no one pays list! Just done some calling around.. Pre reg scout with 2000 extras on board.. 6 months old 24.5k... Circa 13k saving on list for a well specced karoq!.. Yes please 

 

One minute you're saying residuals will be held up, the next your talking about huge depreciation?

 

 

Apologies Scot - you are correct.  I am talking about residuals longer term.  The idea that anyone takes notice of list price these days is fanciful - take the 30% off Renault are currently offering.  I would always base depreciation off the price you buy at rather than the list if that makes sense! 

@benbfc12

Residuals long term are if you walk in or buy social distanced a Brand New or Used / Ex Demonstrator with cash money or finance and own it for 3 years or more and then go and try selling it for cash to a dealers / trader or private and how much money you can get.

 

They are not in demand now and not that likely to be in demand once the manufacturers warranty expires.

Main Dealerships might take it at 3 years plus old as a trade in but as to what they would buy it for, then that is the reality of residual value.

6 hours ago, benbfc12 said:

I am talking about residuals longer term.  The idea that anyone takes notice of list price these days is fanciful - take the 30% off Renault are currently offering.  I would always base depreciation off the price you buy at rather than the list if that makes sense! 

 

It makes perfect sense, what doesn't make sense is you reckoning prices will remain high if there's no demand for the car.

 

Residuals longer term? If you can buy a pre-reg for £24.5k then why are you saying it's good news for 19 plate Scouts?  It's awful news for 19 plate Scouts.

 

And regardless if a car is new or 3yr old, the fact remains that an Edition will always be more attractive -  you can buy a car with the same engine and drivetrain with loads more std equipment for roughly the same price.  What killing off the Scout version certainly will not do is lessen the depreciation.  Perhaps you're getting the Scout mixed up with limited runs of more exotic cars where demand is greater than supply.

 

 

Residuals may not improve, but used Scouts may become easier to sell.

 

The reason they don't sell well now is their price, it potentially puts a lot of people off, who ultimately plump for the duller SE, SE L and Editions.

 

The Scout will still depreciate at the same rate, but if you end up needing to sell it then chances are you'll have prospective customers stopping at your Scout when scrolling through an endless list of lower spec versions.

 

It is also worth noting the Karoq Scout was only launched recently.

 

For those who've owned Skoda's for many years will remember how the MkII Octavia Scout residuals were always way way higher than the regular 2WD and even 4x4 models, they always demanded a premium, even after the launch of the MkIII.

So - I purchase one of the last Octavia Scouts on a 19 plate.  I remember back in late 2018, that the dealers in Edinburgh were telling me the Scout models were to be dropped; its very sad, because it is a marque that has been associated with the Octavia, Fabia and the new SUV models since 2007.  Still - 12 years is a good run....of course, what I would say is this.....you will be able to get a MK4 Octavia Scout, but it will be extremely rare and a special order only - and you might have to order it via a Czech dealer.  My view on a new car is that forget what the UK Skoda Configurator says, you can fairly well take any model that Skoda do and put it together into the package you want.  If you want to Bi-Turbo 242BHP Diesel, go for it....want a manual....sure....but none of these options will EVER appear on the UK options list.

 

How do I know this??  Well, it all comes down to the VW Dealer ordering system....which is basically the queuing system for all factory orders for all of the cars that VW make....when you order a new car, your dealer inputs your requirements and you are given a date and shipping.  The dealer where I ordered my new 2016 Octy Scout from said to me as much (choose what you want)....the general view is as long as you can pay for all of the extras you need and are willing to wait whilst the factory figures out how to fit a 2.0 litre Bi-Turbo engine into your Citigo, then you should be able to order the dream machine of your choice.

 

Failing that....you can still order a SE-L with rough road package...its a Scout in all but name.

@varaderoguy 

 Fabia (estate) & Roomster Scouts were just a model with extra plastic body mouldings but standard FWD.

In other countries there are Mk3 Fabia Scout-line.  Just a model with extra plastic mouldings.

Bit of a joke really.

 

Like Scout models with vulnerable snouts and basically a trim level excercise.

 

 

 

Edited 3 June, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

Agreed - but it is a nice trim level....

 

Suits my style.

@varaderoguy

But you do not have a Karoq Scout do you?   

If more had purchased or leased them then they might not go. 

Just like the much loved Yeti's that some bought a few of and many never bought any of.

3 hours ago, varaderoguy said:

...you will be able to get a MK4 Octavia Scout, but it will be extremely rare and a special order only - and you might have to order it via a Czech dealer.  My view on a new car is that forget what the UK Skoda Configurator says, you can fairly well take any model that Skoda do and put it together into the package you want.  If you want to Bi-Turbo 242BHP Diesel, go for it....want a manual....sure....but none of these options will EVER appear on the UK options list.

 

Are you suggesting a Czech Skoda dealer will supply a right hand drive vehicle to a customer from the UK, or that someone from the UK imports a LHD vehicle purchased in the Czech Republic?

19 hours ago, silver1011 said:

 

Are you suggesting a Czech Skoda dealer will supply a right hand drive vehicle to a customer from the UK, or that someone from the UK imports a LHD vehicle purchased in the Czech Republic?

Yes - I am suggesting that you can indeed order a RHD Skoda from dealers in Czechia .  When I went on the Skoda European Tour - we visit Autocentrum Jan Smucler in Prague and through a translator asked that exact question on whether they would accept orders for RHD cars from the UK.  They said yes, absolutely.  Their website is: https://www.smucler.cz/ Their dealership puts anything in the UK into the shadows.

 

You can only order from the factory what they are building, so if there are right hand models in the trim / spec you want being built for other world regions then they might well get you one.

Collect it and do your importation and sort out your taxes.

Best be getting on with it while the UK is in the transition period and things might be simpler.

 

Or just get one or if you want more from those already built and sitting bunkered.

On 03/06/2020 at 16:40, varaderoguy said:

How do I know this??  Well, it all comes down to the VW Dealer ordering system....which is basically the queuing system for all factory orders for all of the cars that VW make....when you order a new car, your dealer inputs your requirements and you are given a date and shipping.  The dealer where I ordered my new 2016 Octy Scout from said to me as much (choose what you want)....the general view is as long as you can pay for all of the extras you need and are willing to wait whilst the factory figures out how to fit a 2.0 litre Bi-Turbo engine into your Citigo, then you should be able to order the dream machine of your choice.

 

1 hour ago, varaderoguy said:

Yes - I am suggesting that you can indeed order a RHD Skoda from dealers in Czechia .  When I went on the Skoda European Tour - we visit Autocentrum Jan Smucler in Prague and through a translator asked that exact question on whether they would accept orders for RHD cars from the UK.  They said yes, absolutely.  Their website is: https://www.smucler.cz/ Their dealership puts anything in the UK into the shadows.

 

 

I'm seriously confused here.

 

"So the dealer in Edinburgh said as much".  Or in other words, he didn't actually say it.

 

And if VW dealer ordering system can order anything you want, then why do you have to order from Czech Republic, why not the Skoda dealer in Glasgow because they all use the same system to order from factory.

 

And what the hell is the Skoda European Tour? Now if you were to say it was a pi55-up around Europe, that'd explain everything. 

Edited 4 June, 20205 yr by Guest

So harsh😁

So the dealer in Edinburgh said it....and they meant it. I was trying to get across the point that your choices when ordering your new Skoda are greater if you order your car in CZ.

 

As to the Skoda European Tour .....its a real thing. You might like it! http://skodatour.eu

Simple really, Skoda UK are the importers, not Skoda Dealerships.