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Barstewards golfers without any thought for others plug into the single charger AC for 5 hours or more and leave the DC available.  Someone let me on after they had 30 mins so I let someone on when they turned up as only fair.  Now I am 6 miles further on sitting using a 7kW for an hour or so to have enough charge to get where I am going and back again.  The golfing Tesla driver is fine, they have 60 kW of charge in for free.  

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A Briskoda member with another excellent vid. 

 

 

 

 

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Such is life with an EV. Swings and roundabouts.

 

Spring has sprung and people can enjoy the roads other than when stuck behind caravaners, or caravaners charging their car in remote locations for free so that they can power the caravans during the night from the car. 

Then there are those rocking up much more often to charge when towing as the efficiency is pathetic when towing what ever the weather temps, but especially in colder weather.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Time to maybe start looking at what is on offer and available now for fitting in month or so if changing tyres.

 

 

 

 

Thanks, yes, I'm on the look out for deals now. Wife likes the known Michelin brand name, so probably going for CC2 for her Leaf. 

Checking every week. Still 3mm left so can it pass MOT in 1 month time. 

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Ordered 4x Michelin CC2 for her Leaf. Stupid size so more expensive than VAG cars.

£159 original fitted price, 10% off tyres at Blackcircles and then £40 or 50 cashback from Michelin (webpage tells me £50, T&C says £40) to make £133-135 fitted per corner.

 

I'll rotate it every other year. This should be the last set of tyre I buy for this car due to local mileage she does.

 

If/when it snows, we'll drive Leaf with all-season tyres. AWD on the MY with summer tyres doesn't help stopping. Those bigger fatter tyres are even more expensive, so I'll get as much life out of them as possible.

We are doing the same, fitted Hankook 4S2 to our Citigo over the summer, so in the snow that will get used. The Citigo is great in the snow anyway, should be even better with these boots on. I was expecting to be on the hook for new rear tyres on the ID4 this month after 3 weeks driving around France, but still have 3mm showing so will postpone a month.

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Just read on my phone an article from THE SUN so not really a newspaper.  EV Drivers risk £100 fines.    The story, less range, blocking roads.  How to look after the car, garage, cover and all this jazz.        So the SUN has warned us, don't be a Rodney.      I have 600 plus miles to do this next 4 days, I will try not to hold up anyone by rolling to a dead stop on a carriageway. 

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PS. My young lad just wrecked another 245/35 R 20 front tyre on his beemer.  Struggled to find a tyre available today or this weekend in Edinburgh without getting a Run Flat at a few hundred quid.  Had eventually managed to get one but not mobile fitting.   He does go through tyres quicker than me.  But the 205/45 r 17 on the Mini are very vulnerable.   Waiting to see if ok on snow but fine in the wet.  I was not happy to start but dropped the pressures a bit and fine. 

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This is a cold enough test for anything that might be experienced in the UK. 

(The Braemar 50 kw charger a bit hit or miss for working but this car has enough range not to be an issue.)

 

 

 

 

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Tried on the 17" wheels and All Seasons but back to 16" and narrower for a bit of a softer ride.  And better in the wet. 

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Let's remember that with a BEV just as with an ICE that before going how ever far and where you fill up in winter you prep the vehicles.

 

Check the Tyres, the pressures, the wipers, the screen wash level and strength, prep the door and hatch seals for winter conditions, and generally be sure the vehicle is winter ready.

The tools / spare wheel, or if no spare your emergency kit, or recovery / emergency breakdown cover.

With an EV are you carrying charging cables, AC & 3 pin, just incase. 

Hi-viz vests, maybe food / drinks, warm clothing, blankets etc.

 

If you are not really going out of town and can walk home or get on a bus then maybe just stick to the car being suitable to be getting in...

 

TESLA Drivers & others,

**Do not lose your mobile phone, or have it stolen or run out of charge. **

Carry a Battery Bank for the Mobile Charging for when you do get stuck for days in the snow and you have no way of charging the car or the phone.

Unless you walk a bit to local habitation where they have no electricity either because the named storm caused black outs.

 

 

 

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How's my efficiency yesterday :rofl: 

0 c around here.

 

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Sat in the car pretty much the whole morning as I taxi around my wife to different shops. The net is when it is out of Park, not sure why it's always slight worse than in-car display, the gross is all energy used divide by distance.

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Yesterday my efficiency at -3*oC in the MINI, 55 miles into Dundee & back was the same as the day before at 1*oC and last week at 7*oC and as in the summer.

 

3.3 miles kWh going in and 3.6 kWh coming back, without AC on and heating set at 17*oC.

Driving a bit easier because ice, un-gritted.

Except when the Yaris was up my arse and then past. But realised a GR Yaris and somehow Icy corners were not a worry, or staying on his side of the road. 

 

Started with 106 miles range, got back after 55 miles with 60% range and showing 58 miles.

Fully charged now and showing 104 miles. 

00.00 am - 7am  offpeak, 7 hours charging 3 pin,

16 kWh @ 6.7 pence cost £1.14.   Minus 3 - minus 4 overnight and minus 2 now. 

 

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Lots of EV reviewers / Blogger / Vloggers go on about heated seat up full.

They must have asbestos underpants, i can not have any car heated seat more than at the lowest heat if staying on even in the coldest weather, 

if i put them on full before getting in or get in my arse can not stand the heat. 

When on low and hot i might put the heat off for the rest of the trip or until i think lets heat my back...

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In the recent snowy weather we parked up the ID.4 and have been using the petrol Citigo. In the past we found the Citigo to be excellent in snow due to low weight, low power even on OEM tyres. We replaced the OE tyres due to aging cracks (car has done 21k in 8 years!) with Hankook 4S2 all-season tyres to make it an even better snow car. It's been exemplary in the snow. The ID.4 at over 2 tons with massive wide tyres and RWD would most likely have been a liability. 

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^^^.

The EV,s i see in the main are on tyres totally hopeless for snow or ice and even to get into charger bays.

 

I expect mayhem on the A9 and in the region of with Storm Bert coming in tonight / tomorrow.

There will be many out ignoring any warning in cars totally inappropriate and on tyres inappropriate even if the roads / snow gates stay open.

Likely they will be open until the first vehicles / drivers can not cope.

Then once help comes shifting / clearing them is the issue.   Luckily not forecast lasting long. 

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Lots of EV reviewers / Blogger / Vloggers go on about heated seat up full.

They must have asbestos underpants

Haha.

 

I do find a full setting blast initially helps with (p)leather seats on both cars. The big blue one has auto setting, and slowly dials back bum heat until cabin reaching temperature, perfect.

 

 

Tyres are everything. I don't get why UK doesn't switch to only fit all-season tyres on cars now.

 

There's new Hankook ion all-season for EV's I see people fitting on their MY on UK Tesla forum. Seems to fit better than CC2 on Tesla wheels, slightly less stretched look and a bit more rim protection.

Unfortunately those Hankooks do not yet come in sizes to fit my ID4. 255/45R20 not available....

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He actually spent about an extra £39 ,  £38.96.     51.27 kWh @ 76 pence.

 

51.27 kWh & only 2.3 miles to a kWh is just 118 miles.   Damn expensive. 

 

But then he needs that receipt as obviously that Porsche rebuild is for the business & that was a business trip to see it and make a video while driving a media car, so 20% VAT claimed back, meaning £31.16 for that Shell Recharge charging.

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I hope Police Scotland have appropriate tyres fitted to the BEV,s and any other vehicles as winter weather has has finally arrived. 

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