I have recently put Golfturbo's 312mm brake conversion onto my FVRS. I am pleased that my car now stops, however, it still doesn't stop as well as my cupra - which has exactly the same 312mm cal/cal carrier setup.

The differences are:

VRS - OEM Pagid Pads, Zimmerman crossdrilled disks

Leon Cupra - Brembo disks, Ferodo Pads

The VRS being lighter I was hoping it would stop better than the cupra?

I was wondering - does the difference lie in the rest of the braking setup - servo, master cylinder?

With a Hybrid turbo conversion in the wings i was wondering if anyone knows whether i can improve stopping power further by replacing any other componants? I was cosidering braded hoses too?

The pedal feel is very different in the cars, and before the VRS had the conversion the brakes had pretty much three settings - off, waiting to work or full on nose dive ABS flashing. It is more progressive now - but again, not as good as the leon.

Anyone have any suggestions?

The brake servo installation will be completely different (I think) as diesels don't produce manifold vacuum which is the normal method of powering the servo.

I suppose the way to do it is to take piccies and compare notes with Leon or Golf drivers.

J.

The power asssist came in very sharply before the conversion, there was not much stopping power before this point. Since the conversion the brakes are progressive - i just get the feeling they should be capable of more, even before the servo assist should come in? I don't know much about braking beyond the basics so all advice is very welcome.

It's probably down to the different pad composition and/or fluid.

It's probably down to the different pad composition and/or fluid.

I was assuming that the pagid pads were ok seeing as they are a well known make, i did pay a lot for the forodo ones - and they are very good.

I don't know what brake fluid is in either of the systems, they have both recently been serviced. The VRS had new fluid put in by the tuners when the conversion was done.

I trust the mechanichs i use for the cupra and i always ask for top shelf parts off them - hence the brembo disks and ferodo pads - sure they would have used good fluid.

Anyone know if a master cylinder off another car in the VAG range (cupra?) could be fitted? I cant find the thread, but i remember somone saying the VRS one was a bit weedy?

The power asssist came in very sharply before the conversion, there was not much stopping power before this point. Since the conversion the brakes are progressive - i just get the feeling they should be capable of more, even before the servo assist should come in? I don't know much about braking beyond the basics so all advice is very welcome.

The brake servo acts proportionally to the effort of the driver's foot on the pedal. It doesn't (or shouldn't) come in 'suddenly'.

The Fabia's pedal is a bit of a hair trigger though and in combination with the standard springs, tends to nosedive the car. Until it is standing on its nose, it can feel like there's not much braking going on. The nosedive also gives you the feeling that you're stopping faster than you are. I ended up braking harder on several occasions as I overestimated my rate of deceleration.

J.

I was assuming that the pagid pads were ok seeing as they are a well known make' date=' i did pay a lot for the forodo ones - and they are very good.

I don't know what brake fluid is in either of the systems, they have both recently been serviced. The VRS had new fluid put in by the tuners when the conversion was done.

I trust the mechanichs i use for the cupra and i always ask for top shelf parts off them - hence the brembo disks and ferodo pads - sure they would have used good fluid.

Anyone know if a master cylinder off another car in the VAG range (cupra?) could be fitted? I cant find the thread, but i remember somone saying the VRS one was a bit weedy?[/quote']

Try here http://www.briskoda.net/forums/fabia/crap-brakes-vrs/43563/

The brake pedal will never feel the same between a petrol and a diesel because of how the vacuum is generated for the servo.